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    1.  🦇 Liggi  🦇‏ @Liggi Aug 18

       🦇 Liggi  🦇 Retweeted N 👻th 👻niel Di 🎃ri 🎃

      Nazis were fascist, nationalistic socialists, they wanted ethnic Germans only, and a collectivist society devoted to the glory of the German people. So yeah, they were socialists, in a sense, but if you’re thinking Bernie Sanders, you’re in the wrong ballpark.https://twitter.com/DIorioNathaniel/status/1030598971209777152 …

       🦇 Liggi  🦇 added,

      N 👻th 👻niel Di 🎃ri 🎃 @DIorioNathaniel
      Ugh, 'were the Nazis socialists?' is my least favourite political debate. Nothing constructive has ever been gained from it. It's cherry picking history just to make a cheap political point
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    2. Novus Prime‏ @novus_prime2 Aug 18
      Replying to @Liggi

      Unpopular opinion: Other than the genocidal bits, the Nazi pre-War economy was a juggernaut. The Nazi economic policy was definitely socially focused, and it worked.

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    3.  🦇 Liggi  🦇‏ @Liggi Aug 18
      Replying to @novus_prime2

      They took the combined might of the Allies to stop, so yeah, they became a huge powerhouse very quickly. I think the problem was the same thing that animated that, also animated the Holocaust and WW2.

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    4. Novus Prime‏ @novus_prime2 Aug 18
      Replying to @Liggi

      Maybe. You have to remember though, the Holocaust was caused, in part, by both an unwillingness to relocate the Jews on the part of the West, and the murder of the Palestinian Jew who was working with the Nazis to relocate them. The later is talked about by @martyrmade.

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    5.  🦇 Liggi  🦇‏ @Liggi Aug 18
      Replying to @novus_prime2 @martyrmade

      To be fair, the West didn’t realise the extent of what was going to happen if they didn’t help forcibly relocate people who didn’t want to be relocated. Maybe if they did, they would have acquiesced, I don’t know. But it still would have been a huge trauma for Europe’s Jews.

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    6. Juggernaut Nihilism‏ @martyrmade Aug 18
      Replying to @Liggi @novus_prime2

      Most German Jews survived anyway

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7.  🦇 Liggi  🦇‏ @Liggi Aug 18
      Replying to @martyrmade @novus_prime2

      Haha, is that like: “the Holocaust could have been worse”? Seems cold comfort.

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    8. Juggernaut Nihilism‏ @martyrmade Aug 18
      Replying to @Liggi @novus_prime2

      No, it's pointing out that the west not taking German Jews in wouldn't have made much of a difference to the body count. It's a point I didn't make well in my podcast.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9.  🦇 Liggi  🦇‏ @Liggi Aug 18
      Replying to @martyrmade @novus_prime2

      You mean if the West has agreed to help forcibly relocate people, despite it being morally questionable anyway, half of German still would have died anyway? How come?

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      Juggernaut Nihilism‏ @martyrmade Aug 18
      Replying to @Liggi @novus_prime2

      I'm saying that the 100k or so German Jews who were killed, while significant and tragic, would not have averted or attenuated an event with a body count in the millions.

      9:47 AM - 18 Aug 2018
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        1.  🦇 Liggi  🦇‏ @Liggi Aug 18
          Replying to @martyrmade @novus_prime2

          Great point.

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        2. Juggernaut Nihilism‏ @martyrmade Aug 18
          Replying to @martyrmade @Liggi @novus_prime2

          Hitler was not primarily concerned with German Jews, although he didn't like them either. It was the unassimilated eastern Jews, many of whom came into Germany after WW1, that excited his hatred. IOW, evacuating German Jews would not have helped Poland's.

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        1. Novus Prime‏ @novus_prime2 Aug 18
          Replying to @martyrmade @Liggi

          Are you sure? Signs of a willingness by the west to relocate or care for the German Jews may have let the Germans think that there was another way outside killing the eastern ones.

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        2. Foster McKenzie‏ @SOS_Write Aug 18
          Replying to @martyrmade @Liggi @novus_prime2

          Holocaust denial. You're such an intellectual to be able to differentiate betveen types of mass murder.

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        3. Novus Prime‏ @novus_prime2 Aug 18
          Replying to @SOS_Write @martyrmade @Liggi

          Lol, ok guy. Google him.

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        4. Working class hero 🍁‏ @neo_prussian Aug 18
          Replying to @novus_prime2 @SOS_Write and

          How are we still doing this

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