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Javier Martinez C.
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Javier Martinez C.

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Linux OS developer @RedHat and @Fedora. Previously @SamsungOSG, @Collabora. he/him.

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    1. Andri in  🇩🇰‏ @andrioid Sep 17
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      Back when I had the time to compile my own kernels there was a terminal GUI that I used to configure it. Is that gone now?

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    2. chris‏ @hugelgupf Sep 17
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      sure, there's menuconfig. I wouldn't call that user-friendly...

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    3. chris‏ @hugelgupf Sep 17
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      esp for first-time linux kernel devs

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    4. chris‏ @hugelgupf Sep 17
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      and the dependencies are oh-so-often so wrong all you get is a compilation error then you have to dig into code to see what broke and what might supply that dependency which means you gotta know how the Kconfig build system actually works (#define and the makefiles)

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    5. Andri in  🇩🇰‏ @andrioid Sep 17
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      Replying to @hugelgupf

      Sounds like the Linux kernel could benefit from lowering this barrier to get some new developers to the project Maybe the @linuxfoundation should sponsor that effort?

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    6. chris‏ @hugelgupf Sep 17
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      tbh i don't have any good ideas on how to make it better right now just a frustration i had starting out, and one i see in everyone we onboard to LinuxBoot internally

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    7. Alberto Ruiz  🇪🇺 🇬🇧‏ @acruiz Sep 18
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      Replying to @hugelgupf @andrioid @linuxfoundation

      seriously make menuconfig is WAY better than anything else out there in the autotools/CMake/NIHbuildSytem world for complex projects

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    8. Javier Martinez C.‏ @martinezjavier Sep 18
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      Replying to @acruiz @hugelgupf and

      I don't think that @hugelgupf was complaining about the tooling (I agree that Kbuild is way better than most build systems) but rather the fact that it's common for option dependencies to not be properly defined in the Kconfig files. What's hard is to figure out the implicit deps

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    9. Alberto Ruiz  🇪🇺 🇬🇧‏ @acruiz Sep 18
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      Replying to @martinezjavier @hugelgupf and

      To me that's a slightly different problem than the setup being hard for newcomers. Rather than the setup being buggy and those bugs being specially harming for newcomers. It's not like those bugs don't hit seasoned developers either.

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    10. Javier Martinez C.‏ @martinezjavier Sep 18
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      Replying to @acruiz @hugelgupf and

      Agreed. But seasoned devs already know how Kbuild/Kconfig works so can figure out what should be enabled. I do believe that we need better tooling though, for example AFAIK there isn't a tool that tells what are all the option needed to be enabled as dependencies for CONFIG_FOO.

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      Javier Martinez C.‏ @martinezjavier Sep 18
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      Replying to @martinezjavier @acruiz and

      menuconfig tells you when searching for a config symbol with / but that's not scriptable and IIRC it only shows you the first level of dependencies, I don't think that traverses recursively the dependency tree.

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