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    1. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Sep 9
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      Sarah Mei Retweeted Detritivore Biome means DOMAIN OF THE WORMS

      1,000,000% this. If a senior engineer can’t explain it to you in a way you understand - even if you are a lot less experienced - that’s THEIR deficiency. Not yours. When this happens, it means THEY actually don’t understand it well enough.https://twitter.com/noahsussman/status/1170870234066165760 …

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      Detritivore Biome means DOMAIN OF THE WORMS @noahsussman
      The best engineers are not only good at listening but they are good at explaining as well. If you have been overwhelmed and intimidated by a senior engineer please consider the Dunning-Kruger effect. It's likely that person knows less than they think they do. A lot less.
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    2. Bob Wakefield‏ @BobLovesData Sep 9
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      Ehhhhhhhh.....should a senior be able to mentor juniors? Yeah. Like that's your job. I twitched because I'm very good at what I do but have a horrible time explaining things to nontechnical business people. They always want me to teach them CS in 5 minutes or less. 🙄

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    3. Solona Armstrong‏ @solonaarmstrong Sep 10
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      A junior should not be nontechnical.

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    4. Bob Wakefield‏ @BobLovesData Sep 10
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      See that's where I raised my eyebrow. I think the assumption here is this is eng to eng communication. But in my role as a senior, I frequently have to interface with C level folks that think I'm a magical wizard that performs voodoo. Very hard to talk to these people.

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      Marina Kukso‏ @marinakukso Sep 11
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      still, *you're* the one with the knowledge, not them. think of how much easier your job would be if you were able to meet them on their level? in my experience, it mostly involves putting in effort to understand where they're at and use terms, analogies, etc., to help understand.

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        2. Bob Wakefield‏ @BobLovesData Sep 11
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          Or they could respect me for the highly trained experienced professional that I am instead of what normally has happened over the past 20 years. C-suite people running on incorrect assumptions, being resistant to learning, and thinking they can do my job.

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        3. Marina Kukso‏ @marinakukso Sep 11
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          i think we're talking about two different things.

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        4. Bob Wakefield‏ @BobLovesData Sep 11
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          Which is exactly what I noted above. The OP is talking about eng to eng communication but, as a senior, you're going to be interfacing with non-engineers, and I reject the notion that someone is a bad engineer because they can't explain things to people with no shared vocabulary.

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        1. Bob Wakefield‏ @BobLovesData Sep 11
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          When you're on a client call with a CEO that is more interested in hearing himself talk than listening to why his systems are a train wreck, then there is no opportunity to meet them on any level.

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