* all the fields that I currently find interesting, etc. AND where I can also get paid for 
Otherwise, Elixir.
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I really wish kids and cool people were right when they say Java is dead. However, after a long stint with Go, all the fields that I currently find interesting, with people whose brains and work I find interesting, still pick Java, simply because it works.
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To be fair I think a lot of people dislike java itself but still like other languages on the JVM runtime (like JRuby, Groovy, Kotlin, Clojure, or Scala). Maybe one of those would be more palatable to you? Either way, I’d be very proud to be a part of the same community as you
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Nah, out of all of those I still prefer Java
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Whoa! That’s.. I mean.. that’s cool! Gotta confess I wasn’t expecting that answer :-)
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Haha. I just believe it works. What I don't like about it is its verbosity (it has never felt natural to me lol) and how messy concurrent code can get if you're not super skilled (vs. Go, for example). In general, I feel it bloated lol.
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That said, the most impressive, big ass systems I've seen (except for etcd) are written in Java. Also, I usually pick it as my language for explaining general concepts or even for interviews because I believe the data structures are very well formed.
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* most impressive, big ass, AND maintainable projects
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It’s so weird hearing you say all this. I’m so used to my smarter friends kicking the Java puppy I’m now confused when a smarter friend.. isn’t even wearing the requisite java puppy kicking boots? Ur tweets made my day. Maybe there’s hope yet!
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If it weren’t for Spring, Java probably would actually be dead tho...
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I haven't noticed kafka or elasticsearch getting any less popular.
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right? real life distributed systems that cannot be described in terms of kubernetes pods still use it on purpose
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y así funcionaa todos los niveles, se le llama "si no está roto, no lo arregles"
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Justo a eso me refería. He visto sistemas que llevan funcionando super bien por más de 10 años. Los modernos le llaman "legacy code", pero ps sirve jajaj.
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Cómo es que si quiera alguien califica como "muerto" al lenguaje más popular de los últimos 10 años y la actualidad
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ya sée. A mí me cuesta trabajo, pero ahora sí me lo he topado en todos lados en proyectos nuevos, no legacy, muy ambiciosos. En este thread no dice que murió, pero el nivel de discusión me lo recordóhttps://twitter.com/seldo/status/1083235018330202112 …
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There are few truly dead computer languages. Java got where it is (virtually ubiquitous) because it deserves to be. For years I've been telling people overly worried about the impending death of their favourite tech to do a web search for 'xx is dead'. Beaucoup de hits
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A corollary is when we become tired of a language or technology that we have spent years learning/perfecting and want to do something different. Go seems to have been a lightning rod for people in this position.
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The point is, all languages have had the opportunity to learn from the languages before it. Verbosity and writing concise programs is a function of using or introducing the right attractions as much as it is the languages responsibility to provide these facilitie. See
@Kotlin
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I'm almost 57 yo, @ today I'm still developing in Java (Java EE7/8 applications as freelance) and I'm still loving Java !!!
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