ModemManager can die in a fire because it fucks with all serial ports by default. And nobody uses modems these days anyway, we just tether to our phone. NetworkManager is fine though, on laptops and maybe some desktops.
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I know, I know, but tbh dumping some init strings into wvdial isn't exactly rocket science. All I'm really saying is MM shouldn't be installed by default and sure as hell shouldn't be a hard dependency of anything. But if you need it by all means.
I agree with you re: NM (and I have the same feeling about pulseaudio). It's just that I've never, ever personally needed MM and yet it's caused me to waste an hour debugging weird serial behavior, several times.
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I have reluctantly come to accept pulseaudio because it makes my Bluetooth headphones actually work properly (switch outputs to them when I connect, back when I disconnect, without restarting anything)
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Exactly. That's the main point. It makes dynamic audio routing work. Even over a LAN to remote speakers. Also things like headphone hotplug on modern chipsets (it's all software now). Of course, when I need audio to *behave* (not just work), I use JACK (often with PA glued to it)
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