Hector Martin

people hate on systemd and they have good points people also hate on network-manager and modem-manager and that is just good old-fashioned "i suffered to set up my wpa2 wireless connection and so you should suffer too" you'll take network-manager from my cold dead hands

the main downside of network-manager is it tries to manage everything by default and I think you need to do some stupid fiddling with udev and its configuration to make it not do that, but that's not a fundamental design flaw

ModemManager can die in a fire because it fucks with all serial ports by default. And nobody uses modems these days anyway, we just tether to our phone. NetworkManager is fine though, on laptops and maybe some desktops.

*you* don't use modems. I absolutely use an LTE modem and I would have never been able to set it up without ModemManager. also, MM does exactly what is permitted by the USB spec: uses CDC ACM devices for their stated primary purposes. it's you who abused CDC ACM for USB-serial

MM used to do it for FTDI devices too, but distros (or at least Ubuntu) eventually disabled it (presumably after too many "maker"-type people complained).

Yeah, that fix wasn't in last time I has to kill it with fire. I use an LTE modem with a Raspberry Pi on an autonomous device. No ModemManager. All I had to do was set the modem to autoconnect mode with qmi. It shows up as an Ethernet device and you just DHCP off of it.