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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Louisa  🌈 👭‏ @LouisatheLast 19 Apr 2018
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      Reminder that “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” was initially a joke about an absurd, impossible thing to do, and that it is not a real thing one can dopic.twitter.com/Bs939CkGtZ

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    2. Tursilion‏ @Tursilion 19 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @LouisatheLast

      it always amused me that the ten was co-opted by computing. "Bootstrapping" describes bringing up a computer system bit by bit. Ie: Apple 2 rom loads a tiny fixed piece of code which can load the rest of the disk track, which has just enough code to load the rest of DOS. ;)

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    3. Dagger  🗣 📣 Impeach the terrorist!‏ @NearSightedPuca 19 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @Tursilion

      Wait is this related to "booting" and "rebooting" a computer up?

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    4. Steven Hoober. No, with a "B."‏ @shoobe01 19 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @NearSightedPuca @Tursilion

      Yes. Those are shorthand for bootstrapping. I am just old enough to have seen the shorthand come about while I was using computers. Worked with/for people much older, worked on some earlier computing systems.

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    5. Steven Hoober. No, with a "B."‏ @shoobe01 19 Apr 2018
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      And the “bootstrapping” term (IIRC) originators for computing seemed to know what they were saying. Seems logically impossible (and was technically difficult, took several iterations to get to here) the computer uses a program, to give itself the ability to run programs.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @shoobe01 @Tursilion

      The term is also used in compiler development, where things get interesting when you need the compiler to compile itself. Bootstrapping is the process of arriving there via some route, often an older version or another compiler.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @marcan42 @shoobe01 @Tursilion

      It's also used in some Linux distributions, and basically any other situation where you need to bring up a system that, a priori, requires an already working version of itself to bring up.

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        2. Euqinomist‏ @Euqinomist 20 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @marcan42 @shoobe01 @Tursilion

          You guys should look up the Münchhausen trilemmna.

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        3. warcabbit‏ @warcabbitMWM 21 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @Euqinomist @marcan42 and

          Tis well known, generally, and tends to default to a set of chosen axiomatic precepts in computing: 'a switch, when closed, will go from 0 to 1' etc. The Basic Operations of Boolean Logic.

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