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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      But of course we all know that none of you are picking your alphanumeric passcode at random. You’re all using Kitty123.

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    2. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      (Crap now I have to change my passcode.)

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    3. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      In all seriousness, if you’re using the alphanumeric option to pick a *non-random* passcode (as most people do) then it’s much harder to tell how much password strength you’re getting. Some, a lot. Some less than they think.

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    4. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      In practice (given the apparent limitations of current iOS attacks) it’s probably fine to use an alphanumeric passcode. It may be very secure. The real question is whether it’s worth the hassle of using the non-numeric keypad.

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    5. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      So in summary: random (long) numeric passcodes may be a more ergonomic choice for a given security level, especially if you force yourself to memorize the thing over a week or two (even if that involves carrying a post-it during that time.) But do whatever works for you.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Apr 2018
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      Honestly, this is why I still prefer a (rooted) Android phone where you can set a long FDE passphrase and a simpler unlock passphrase. If you shut the thing down the key material is gone unless you can crack a long scrypted passphrase.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Apr 2018
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      I understand the trade-offs Apple is making with their more complex security implementation (and Android is moving in that direction with file-based crypto) but I'd rather have a much simpler to analyze FDE approach.

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    8. Taiki‏ @Taiki__San 17 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @marcan42 @matthew_d_green

      The problem with FDE iirc was that for the phone to operate, keys must be in memory (so that binaries can be decrypted). The file based approach allow cleartext keys for non-essential files to be wiped from memory when the device is locked and to be encrypted with the passcode*

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @Taiki__San @matthew_d_green

      The OS is not encrypted, so the phone can boot and you can make emergency calls. However, to unlock the data partition (and thus boot the rest of the Android framework including all your user data) you need to type in your passphrase. This is a trade-off I'm willing to make.

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    10. Taiki‏ @Taiki__San 17 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @marcan42 @matthew_d_green

      Sure, but the key of the data partition is still in memory once you typed your passphrase at boot, right?

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @Taiki__San @matthew_d_green

      Yes. Ideally you'd want *both* schemes at once, but Google seems to think they can get fine grained data partitioning right (they can't) and thus forgo proper passphrase-controlled FDE when they use file-based encryption instead.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @marcan42 @Taiki__San @matthew_d_green

          The reason why I prefer FDE is that runtime attacks are much more fragile - one misstep by the attacker and they're locked out, and the attack surface is smaller (physical attacks are very impractical if you can't shut the phone down); you have to get in through background SW.

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        3. Taiki‏ @Taiki__San 17 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @marcan42 @matthew_d_green

          Don't know about Android's security model but can't really see a significant upside vs using the passphrase as a passcode and relying on biometrics not to have to type it too often. I guess different security models?

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