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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      A lot of people responding to this saying “why decimal, why not use an alphanumeric passcode?” Sure, go for it. But keep in mind that unless you choose your password very well you might not be *that* much better off.

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    2. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      In iOS when you choose a passcode, the system defaults to six digits. But under “passcode options” you get a choice of a custom numeric passcode or a custom alphanumeric passcode. (Let’s not talk about the 4-digit option. 💩)pic.twitter.com/3LouPSYYbz

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    3. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      If you choose “numeric” then each time you log in you’ll see a big, friendly number keypad. If you choose alphanumeric you’ll get a typical iOS keyboard with tiny keys, and a Shift/123 key for caps/symbols/numbers.pic.twitter.com/7OmOHv6ddG

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    4. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      So the question now is: for a given level of security, which of these interfaces is easier for *you* to operate quickly. Which type of passcode is easier for you memorize?

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    5. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      Alphanumeric has two hypothetical advantages. If you pick the password *truly at random* you can get more entropy (strength) from each alpha button press, so your password could be shorter. But those fewer keystrokes come at the cost of squinting at small keys.

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    6. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      But of course we all know that none of you are picking your alphanumeric passcode at random. You’re all using Kitty123.

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    7. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      (Crap now I have to change my passcode.)

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    8. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      In all seriousness, if you’re using the alphanumeric option to pick a *non-random* passcode (as most people do) then it’s much harder to tell how much password strength you’re getting. Some, a lot. Some less than they think.

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    9. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      In practice (given the apparent limitations of current iOS attacks) it’s probably fine to use an alphanumeric passcode. It may be very secure. The real question is whether it’s worth the hassle of using the non-numeric keypad.

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    10. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 16 Apr 2018
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      So in summary: random (long) numeric passcodes may be a more ergonomic choice for a given security level, especially if you force yourself to memorize the thing over a week or two (even if that involves carrying a post-it during that time.) But do whatever works for you.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Apr 2018
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      Honestly, this is why I still prefer a (rooted) Android phone where you can set a long FDE passphrase and a simpler unlock passphrase. If you shut the thing down the key material is gone unless you can crack a long scrypted passphrase.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Apr 2018
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          I understand the trade-offs Apple is making with their more complex security implementation (and Android is moving in that direction with file-based crypto) but I'd rather have a much simpler to analyze FDE approach.

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        3. Taiki‏ @Taiki__San 17 Apr 2018
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          The problem with FDE iirc was that for the phone to operate, keys must be in memory (so that binaries can be decrypted). The file based approach allow cleartext keys for non-essential files to be wiped from memory when the device is locked and to be encrypted with the passcode*

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