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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. hedge.txt | Mostly Inactive, except when not‏ @hedgeberg 13 Jan 2018
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      Due to recent events, I'd like to take the time to point something out: without major, major security fuckups, Flashcards on the switch, no matter how heavily promised, are not possible. The switch's gamecart security is airtight. Anyone claiming otherwise is a scammer or a fool.

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    2. Laith Iris‏ @laith_iris_ 13 Jan 2018
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      Just a question. Not even a flashcard that would mirror the exact data in an original cart would work? As in, you would have to flash the data in the flashcard and you could only have one game in it, but would that work? And if not, why? Sorry if its a dumb question

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    3. hedge.txt | Mostly Inactive, except when not‏ @hedgeberg 13 Jan 2018
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      The cart isn't just a ROM, it's a ROM and a secure microcontroller. The MCU and switch together exchange information to make the communication different each time. Even if the data is the same, the comms will fail if the microcontroller isn't present and knows how to handle this.

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    4. hedge.txt | Mostly Inactive, except when not‏ @hedgeberg 13 Jan 2018
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      Mirroring the rom worked for the NDS because there was very little verification. It didn't work for the 3DS until sky3ds cracked the cart protections and reimplemented. Issue here is that there is active protection in both the cart and the switch.

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    5. hedge.txt | Mostly Inactive, except when not‏ @hedgeberg 13 Jan 2018
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      Basically, without an OS exploit + a hardware-modified switch in addition to the cart itself, you're SoL.

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    6. Laith Iris‏ @laith_iris_ 13 Jan 2018
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      What about disc consoles? How do they know whether a disc is legit or not?

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    7. hedge.txt | Mostly Inactive, except when not‏ @hedgeberg 13 Jan 2018
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      This one is actually super neat. I don't know for all of them, but for the Wii, first off the disks actually spun backwards! You couldn't use regular pc DVDs without some smart hax. Second, the manufacturer intentionally burned specific sectors of the disk as bad.

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    8. Aaru Data Preservation Suite‏ @aaru_dps 16 Jan 2018
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      GC/Wii uses a different scrambling algorithm than the DVD standard specification. It was a myth that they spun backwards, but its simpler than that (and this simplicity is enough to make the originals unreadable on a computer and the burnt ones unrecognized by the console)

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    9. hedge.txt | Mostly Inactive, except when not‏ @hedgeberg 16 Jan 2018
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      Yeah, I've since been educated as such. Again, Wii wasn't a platform I worked on past basic application of other people's haxx, I was like 14 iirc. Was just spouting something someone told me once. odds are they were talking about something else and I screwed up a-la telephone

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Apr 2018
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      It was several things: 1) sector format subtly changed, 2) scrambing seeds different, 3) some nonstandard media type in the lead-in, 4) a laser physically punches "scratches" into lead-in, 5) laser-cut BCA encodes PSNs of thusly damaged sectors, symmetrically encrypted.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Apr 2018
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      The theory is that angular positions of sectors aren't predictable, so you can't duplicate and then "re-make" the same scratches because they'd hit different sectors. Then Datel figured out you can just... turn off the mastering laser to simulate a scratch. Oops.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Apr 2018
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          This is how they made their unofficial GC/Wii discs, by copying the BCA area from a real game and then duplicating the broken sectors by shutting down the laser (breaking the low level bitstream) even though they're no longer in the same physical location.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Apr 2018
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          Incidentally, all of this is *theoretically* possible to do with a hardware+firmware-modified DVD+R burner. Media type is changeable, BCA can be written with LightScribe-type technology, you can mess with seeds and bitstream, ...

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