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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. SwiftOnSecurity‏ @SwiftOnSecurity 15 Feb 2018
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      It’s 2018 and you can run Crysis on integrated graphics, but Linux still can’t play two sounds at the same time on anything.

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    2. SwiftOnSecurity‏ @SwiftOnSecurity 15 Feb 2018
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      (Problems with mixing simultaneous audio streams was a real issue with ALSA years ago)

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    3. SwiftOnSecurity‏ @SwiftOnSecurity 15 Feb 2018
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      Apparently it's still an issue 🙁https://twitter.com/zeefreak/status/964162903392817156 …

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    4. hedge.txt | Mostly Inactive, except when not‏ @hedgeberg 15 Feb 2018
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      I've never had an issue with this when running pulse over alsa, but I haven't looked into the internals of the interface, maybe pulse mixes the audio before sending to alsa? That's kinda neat though, curious why this has persisted as long as it has.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 15 Feb 2018
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      Pulse mixes everything. ALSA has dmix which can do the same but isn't enabled by default these days (because PA takes care of it). And PA usually has an ALSA plugin so *everything* should go to PA and get mixed by default.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 15 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @marcan42 @hedgeberg @SwiftOnSecurity

      If you have a really boneheaded legacy app that hardcodes the audio output device on ALSA or insists on direct hardware access then yeah, that will not work properly and will block other audio if there was nothing playing before.

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    7. Bad Horse‏ @BadHorseOC 15 Feb 2018
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      Linux audio is such a mess. This is why I like FreeBSD. /dev/dsp is a virtual device that many processes can open, and a kernel thread mixes it. Simple as pie and it just F'ing works.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 15 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @BadHorseOC @hedgeberg @SwiftOnSecurity

      Can it switch dynamically between sound cards? Will plugging in external speakers re-route audio through the separate DAC channel? What about up/downmixing? Hotplugging HDMI to send audio to a TV? Network audio? Bluetooth? Ducking audio while on calls? PA does all of those.

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        2. Francesco Ponzin‏ @FrancescoPonzin 15 Feb 2018
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          Replying to @marcan42 @BadHorseOC and

          with PA you can use a bluetooth headset as a baby monitor while talking on skype and sending the song you are listening mixed with your voice :D ps: alas, if you configure it to do so, it can develop odd random latencies and borrow more cpu power than it should

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 15 Feb 2018
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          Replying to @FrancescoPonzin @BadHorseOC and

          Yeah, PA is by no means perfect, but it's gotten good enough to Just Work in the vast majority of cases, and it provides some rather nifty features. I finally switched to it years ago when I had a use case for network audio.

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        2. Bad Horse‏ @BadHorseOC 15 Feb 2018
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          Replying to @marcan42 @hedgeberg @SwiftOnSecurity

          Output switching is application-level stuff. You get a separate device per sound card (or output if the hardware has more than one). Also, /usr/ports/audio/pulsoaudio is there if you want it. It works just fine on top of a snd(4) device. 😀

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 15 Feb 2018
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          Why is output switching application-level stuff? Why would every app have to support Bluetooth device connection, deal with hotplug events, dynamically switch, remember preferred outputs? All of that works *so* much better when it's centralized (but apps can still override it).

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