sounds like a fun excersize actually, lol
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Replying to @AntidoteCRK
I mean it does those things on its own. Sometimes it gets tied up in a knot though, there *are* situations it can't handle, and that's when it gets tricky to figure out "what's the one package I need to uninstall/rebuild to unjam this".
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Replying to @marcan42 @AntidoteCRK
Circular dependencies are another usual one. You can't actually install a fully functional desktop system with certain features globally enabled in one go. Rarely happens on clean installs (since you tend to enable things progressively), but if you clone configs it does.
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Replying to @marcan42 @AntidoteCRK
You have to disable the feature first, install some package, then enable it and reinstall (which breaks the circular chain). No real way around that (though it could be handled automatically but isn't right now).
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Replying to @AntidoteCRK
Anyway, things have massively improved since the old days when I started. It used you be you'd get a libpng soname bump and your entire desktop was broken until you recompiled everything. Nowadays it's automated *and* keeps the old lib around in the meantime.
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Replying to @marcan42 @AntidoteCRK
And also not everything depends on libpng indirectly, so no need to recompile everything. That was another big change, as-needed linking by default.
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At least portage is moving in the right direction, dpkg seems to be back sliding a lot lately :| had to rescue my uncle's ubuntu 17.04 install because it got stranded.
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Replying to @AntidoteCRK
Yeah, I've never liked Debian's package management. Honestly even today multistrapping a Debian system from scratch always ends up getting tied up in some circular dependency fail that needs hacks to fix. The installer is full of little hack special cases...
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Replying to @marcan42
that's why i like Arch's approach, and gentoo is pretty similar, just give me a tty session and a few tools, I'm not braindead lol
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And a tarball of the root filesystem to start with. I don't get why even Arch insists on pacstrap and a bootstrap tarball (and Debian and co on debootstrap, etc). Arch Linux ARM provides direct rootfs tarballs. Same as Gentoo. Just have automated weekly builds.
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Replying to @marcan42
i noticed that with alarmpi, setting up my rpi3 with arch was painless that way.
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