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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hannah Grimm‏ @Dharlette 23 Dec 2017
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      A great many men have been up in my mentions pointing out that men can easily search a hash of their OWN names to identify women who are posting. Guys. Bros. Dudes. Abusers are ALREADY aware of the people they've targeted.

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    2. Hannah Grimm‏ @Dharlette 23 Dec 2017
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      And for the "but Rainbow tables!" crowd... What if I told you that the goal of women posting hashes of their abusers names actually has nothing to do with protecting men? It's about not having to be the first one to speak out.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2017
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      You still don't get it. I know that's the goal. It doesn't matter what your goal is. If the hashes are reversible, *whatever your goal is* in using hashes can be subverted. You might as well just post plaintexts.

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    4. kechpaja‏ @kechpaja 23 Dec 2017
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      “Can” is *extremely* relative. It’s technically possible to invert a hash given given sufficient resources, but it’s definitely *not* the same as posting plaintext. There’s also some plausible deniability in that usually there are collisions.

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    5. kechpaja‏ @kechpaja 23 Dec 2017
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      I wonder if it might help for different posters to use different hash functions, so if one person has targeted multiple people, their name can be triangulated on because it will very likely be the only one in common between the possible plaintexts of different posters’ hashes.

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    6. Hannah Grimm‏ @Dharlette 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @kechpaja @marcan42

      If you wanted to make being targeted by some bizarre countermovement harder, you could post a salt with your hash, but that makes it SO much harder to use it to find others victimized by the same person that it mostly defeats the purpose.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2017
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      If your goal is to be able to search Twitter for other victims with plausible deniability, then as I said a viable approach is to *deliberately* weaken the hash to ensure collisions. As for countermovements, "bizarre" is exactly what 4chan excels at.

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2017
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      Again, these are things you have to *consider* and analyze and model. You need to understand the risks. You need to *explain* those risks. You need to try to come up with the best possible solution. Not doing so is dangerous and a disservice to victims.

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    9. Hannah Grimm‏ @Dharlette 23 Dec 2017
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      Yo, I thought you said you were done Sealioning.

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    10. Justin Nesselrotte‏ @jnesselr 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @Dharlette @marcan42 @kechpaja

      Thanks for using that term, I had forgotten what it meant. I think I kinda get it after reading a bunch of comments. Basically, even if someone did find the name associated with the hash, and made it public, they'd be doing so at their own risk and publicizing it themselves?

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2017
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      Which I find to be a silly notion. The burden would still fall on the person making the accusation (hashed or not), not the person who merely deobfuscated it. If I randomly cracked a hash, who would you think the attacker and media would go after, me or the person who posted it?

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        2. Justin Nesselrotte‏ @jnesselr 23 Dec 2017
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          Yeah, it's kind of a weird social theory thing. Basically, it makes an attacker or ally of an attacker less likely to discredit someone. If the media cracked the hash, then publicized it they would be the ones publicizing it and "making a big deal out of it".

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        3. Justin Nesselrotte‏ @jnesselr 23 Dec 2017
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          If an attacker did desire to discredit them, they probably could do it in ways that wouldn't reveal themselves, sure, but your goal is to stop the allegations and yelling voices as an attacker. If a media outlet is reporting on it, they're going to want a bit more than a hash.

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