On the topic of laser safety. If I see anyone messing around with a powerful laser (class 3 upward) without taking the neccessary precautions I *will* put @c3cert on it. Please leave your oversized laser "pointers" at home (feel free to threaten your own eyes).
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Replying to @datenwolf @c3cert
Last year they made me take down my interlocked RGB projector which was located at well above eye level and pointed at a wall, so I definitely won't be bringing it this year.
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Replying to @marcan42 @datenwolf
That is no point, CERT would have been involved. Only if fire safety is directly concerned, we get in contact with you. I don't know whoever let you take it down and why.
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Replying to @c3cert @datenwolf
Some angel asked for official German legal paperwork regarding the laser, which I obviously didn't have, and said I needed to take it down if I didn't have it.
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Replying to @marcan42 @datenwolf
That has not been a CERTling. "some angel"s behaviour I cant't explain or justify. Maybe you want to talk to PL / Orga.
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Replying to @c3cert @datenwolf
Seems the person who requested the takedown was HonkHase.
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If HonkHase says it's a problem, it's probably a problem. The guys it usually pretty chill and only takes out the ban-hammer if it could really create some trouble (which includes legal). But: You don't mess with HonkHase.
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Replying to @datenwolf @c3cert
It wasn't a problem every year prior, then suddenly all lasers disappeared on day 1 of 33c3. Whatever the problem was, it had nothing to do with individual lasers and everything to do with some kind of general decision, legal or otherwise.
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Note that "is something illegal" is rarely a valid blanket argument. I'm sure countless German rules and regulations are broken at CCC each year and nobody cares.
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Actually there's nothing "illegal" about operating high powered lasers. The problem is, that if something bad^TM happens the rules on liability and insurance can create a HUGE backlash on events like the C3.
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I was told I needed a legal permit (and given no further explanation as to why this was being enforced), so what little explanation I received was purely based on a legal basis.
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Replying to @marcan42 @datenwolf
If you are interested, we can sort that out in Leipzig with Honkhase. I (MadDoc) could offer to spend the Mate-Drink. I'm sure, there is no problem, we couldn't solve "the chaos way".
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