Hector Martin

Well I'm not talking about mobile HDR10+ but just compression vs lossless video.

Compression is an entirely different subject. Of course it's a lot easier to manipulate uncompressed audio, but video codecs are reaching the point of transparency at doable bitrates too.

H265 you mean? There are much better alternatives. VP9 is progressing fast.

Any of the latest wave of codecs really. I mean, you can easily stream 1gbps over the network or from an HDD these days, that's a lot of bits to throw at video encoding. Of course it's never going to be as lightweight as audio, but it's *doable*.

I'm not sure if there are good ABX tests of video encoding at high bitrates, but given a quick research I'd wager that even h.264 at a crf yielding ~50mbps for most sources should be pretty much transparent for 1080p.

H264 is outdated if you see the @streamingmedia whitepapers for the new formats. Very informative platform.

I know h.264 is outdated; my point was that even h.264 should be transparent at very doable bitrates by today's standards. More compression efficiency is good for storage/streaming, but h.264 is already at the point where we can get near ideal results without extreme measures.

Nah I don't agree. My eyes are bad but I clearly see differences on the Big Bug Bunny videos.