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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Stefano Zanero‏Verified account @raistolo 16 Oct 2017
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      Protip: academic board observed secret and so did vendors. The OpenBSD patch went unnoticed. It was the Infosec community that screwed up.https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/919972354947796993 …

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      Hector Martin @marcan42
      Protip: this makes your disclosure *irresponsible*. So does notifying an academic review board 2 months before notifying vendors. Asshole. pic.twitter.com/7pu3Qhn0cd
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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 16 Oct 2017
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      Disclosing to those unrelated to fixing the bug 2+ months before for acad brownie points is irresponsible. Infosec community did what?

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    3. Stefano Zanero‏Verified account @raistolo 16 Oct 2017
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      Why? That’s a very typical process for academic submissions.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 16 Oct 2017
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      Typical does not make it right, and most (good) academic security papers aren't about software bugs but about deeper protocol/crypto breaks.

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    5. Stefano Zanero‏Verified account @raistolo 16 Oct 2017
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      Not true. And typical, since it does not do any harm, makes it reasonable and not “irresponsible”.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 16 Oct 2017
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      It does harm - it adds 2+ months to the vulnerability window. At the very least you should be sending drafts of the paper out to vendors.

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    7. Stefano Zanero‏Verified account @raistolo 16 Oct 2017
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      Nope, it doesn’t. Academic review of these papers happens under secrecy (this was NOT leaked in the academic review process).

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 16 Oct 2017
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      That assumes you're the only one who knows about the bug so far. That is an irresponsible thing to assume.

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 16 Oct 2017
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      In this day and age people buy and sell vulns and the NSAs of the world have an arsenal of 0days and holding onto bugs is just Wrong™.

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    10. Luca‏ @securescientist 17 Oct 2017
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      You seem to assume this info may get in the hands of anybody, but the set of reviewers is public and the association between paper and reviewer is not lost after submission. If exploit leaks the one responsible can be singled out. That’s a significant control mechanism

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Oct 2017
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      I'm assuming someone may already know of this bug and be actively exploiting it. This is exactly the kind of ubiquitous bug govts love.

      7:56 AM - 17 Oct 2017
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        1. Luca‏ @securescientist 17 Oct 2017
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          So you must be angry at the silent “early” update not at the disclosure to an “academic review board”.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 17 Oct 2017
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          I'm annoyed that disclosure to an academic review board (with zero benefit to security and low but nonzero risk of leak)...

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        1. Stefano Zanero‏Verified account @raistolo 17 Oct 2017
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          So, based on your unproven assumption, you are calling out as unethical a behavior that followed a standard coordinated disclosure behavior

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        2. Stefano Zanero‏Verified account @raistolo 17 Oct 2017
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          On top of that, you are presuming to lecture who found the bug on what YOU think he should have done with HIS bug. Fascinating.

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