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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Lakiw has 15% of your password‏ @lakiw 8 Aug 2017
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      2/n Zxcvbn default blacklists: 100k english words from wikipidia, ~100k names (first + last), 47k common passwords, 39k words from tv & film

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    2. Lakiw has 15% of your password‏ @lakiw 8 Aug 2017
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      3/n Zxcvbn checks for mangled variations of its blacklists. Aka could easily be said it has over 300mil blacklist depending on configuration

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    3. Lakiw has 15% of your password‏ @lakiw 8 Aug 2017
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      4/n What I think makes Zxcvbn different from using Troy Hunt's list though is that it attempts to explain why a password was rejected aka UX

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    4. Lakiw has 15% of your password‏ @lakiw 8 Aug 2017
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      5/n Much longer way of saying the disagreement might not be on size of blacklist but the user's experience with the blacklist ;p

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    5. Royce Williams‏ @TychoTithonus 8 Aug 2017
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      👍👍👍 :) Put another way: teaching/UX about entire *classes* of bad password scales much better than a huge list of *only* leaked passwords

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    6. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 8 Aug 2017
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      Use Chinese. Use Japanese. Use Cyrillic, Greek, Hebrew & Arabic. Use Unicode. Use it all. Choose life. Choose UX. Choose your own password.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 8 Aug 2017
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      If you think using Japanese or Chinese for passwords is reasonable, you clearly know nothing about how those two languages work.

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    8. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 8 Aug 2017
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      I’ll admit I don’t know Chinese or Japanese, but I’ve been co-supervising a Chinese PhD student doing pwd research. Does that count?

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 8 Aug 2017
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      Have you spoken to him about how passwords work in Chinese? ;)

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    10. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 8 Aug 2017
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      Him? I’ve seen her type in Chinese passphrases for various sites. Seems to work as far as I can tell. And she’s damn smart too!

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 8 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @thorsheim @TychoTithonus and

      In actual Chinese characters, not romanized/pinyin? And without displaying everything on the screen first?

      11:59 AM - 8 Aug 2017
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        1. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 8 Aug 2017
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          Hey, I don't know Chinese, but it looked very Chinese to me. Oh, and the password entry itself was masked.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 8 Aug 2017
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          If it was masked how do you know it was Chinese? I'm sure she was just typing pinyin (i.e. ASCII romanized Chinese). https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity14/sec14-paper-li-zhigong.pdf …

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        1. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 8 Aug 2017
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          I mean, if you can write Chinese in tweets, why not also into a password entry field?

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 8 Aug 2017
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          Because you can't write Chinese without feedback about what you're writing. It's an interactive process with menus and choices.

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