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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 5 Aug 2017
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      This is worthy of a paper, Twitter not sufficient. I imagine blocking 306 million pwds would cause massive customer loss & complaints.

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    2. PasswordResearch.com‏ @PwdRsch 5 Aug 2017
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      Password Creation in the Presence of Blacklists, USEC '17, http://www.passwordresearch.com/papers/paper650.html … Didn't measure such a large blacklist though.

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    3. Royce Williams‏ @TychoTithonus 5 Aug 2017
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      And based on the 99.2% of Hunt's hashes I've cracked so far, if you simply require 12 characters minimun, 80% of his list is unnecessary.

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    4. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 6 Aug 2017
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      And by setting minlength=12 and saying so on screen, UX but would be far better than being told «you can’t use that pwd Dave. Try again.»

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 6 Aug 2017
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      Except for all the people with 8-10 character passwords not in the blocklist which are perfectly adequate and would be rejected.

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    6. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 6 Aug 2017
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      ... which is why you would tell them the minimum pwd requirements up front, *before* they are asked to set a pwd. Which is good UX.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 6 Aug 2017
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      The *vast* majority of possible 8-character passwords are not pwned; requiring 12-char passwords is IMO worse UX.

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 6 Aug 2017
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      If requiring 12 character passwords made UX sense then why isn't every website doing that already?

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    9. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 6 Aug 2017
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      Legacy systems. Cost. Lack of knowledge. Laziness. Lack of business case or risk analysis to support the change. Standards. Even laws.

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 6 Aug 2017
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      I've worked at one of the Big Internet Companies and no offense, but all of those are utter BS. If it made UX sense it would've been done.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 6 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42 @thorsheim and

      All that stuff applies to enterprise systems, banks, etc. Your average modern Web company has no problem w/min=12 *if* it doesn't lose users

      11:49 AM - 6 Aug 2017
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        1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 6 Aug 2017
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          So why aren't Twitter, Google, Facebook, and every mildly popular web startup using min=12 when it's a trivial config change for them?

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        2. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 6 Aug 2017
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          Because they prefer good UX, does risk analysis and threat models, and have TONS of compensating controls instead. Good security UX.

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        1. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 6 Aug 2017
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          1) Poland: LAW requires pwds protecting personal info to be min 6 characters, and change every 30 days. Frequent chsnge make security bad.

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        2. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 6 Aug 2017
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          2) applies to everyone afaik. I'm not talking single, modern, small web shop with good admits Herr.

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