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Hector Martin
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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 5 Aug 2017
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      This is worthy of a paper, Twitter not sufficient. I imagine blocking 306 million pwds would cause massive customer loss & complaints.

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    2. Michal Špaček‏Verified account @spazef0rze 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @thorsheim @tomashala @marcan42

      Maybe a soft-block of non-top10k would be okay then? You know the "somebody else is using your password" jokes might be useful eventually:-)

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    3. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @spazef0rze @tomashala @marcan42

      Does Google, Twitter, Facebook or your bank use any blacklists? Why/not? 😉

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    4. Michal Špaček‏Verified account @spazef0rze 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @thorsheim @tomashala @marcan42

      They use lists for lowering pw score, not technically a block list, though. My bank uses SMS OTP with PIN, my other bank allowed login=pw.

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    5. Michal Špaček‏Verified account @spazef0rze 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @spazef0rze @thorsheim and

      Michal Špaček Retweeted Michal Špaček

      Czech post uses a minimal block list, with veeeery interesting choices... :-)https://twitter.com/spazef0rze/status/676700855681224704 …

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      Michal ŠpačekVerified account @spazef0rze
      Password policy for Czech Post. Note the blacklisted passwords :-) Can be seen at https://www.postaonline.cz/rap/registrace-s-zadosti-o-zk-lide/-/customerCardApplication/step1-individuals … pic.twitter.com/XxFkWM19t1
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    6. Michal Špaček‏Verified account @spazef0rze 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @spazef0rze @thorsheim and

      Google et al. have 2FA, list of devices, locations. Like you said, other serverside features, which I like a lot, more than a block list.

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    7. Marcel Šulek‏ @marcelsulek 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @spazef0rze @thorsheim and

      It's very rare you would choose a secure AND leaked-from-someone-else pwd. Most blocklist hits will be either nonsecure or personal reuse.

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    8. Michal Špaček‏Verified account @spazef0rze 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @marcelsulek @thorsheim and

      The question is: is a block list the right way how to teach users about secure passwords/accounts? Maybe but you block 3 pws & they go away.

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    9. Marcel Šulek‏ @marcelsulek 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @spazef0rze @thorsheim and

      It's another tool in the chain. First something like zxcvbn to filter too simple pwds. Then a blocklist to prevent reuse.

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    10. Michal Špaček‏Verified account @spazef0rze 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @marcelsulek @thorsheim and

      With 300M block list you'll probably block anything not generated in a pw manager. I see why Top1(0)k might be a better option. It depends.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @spazef0rze @marcelsulek and

      You're grossly overestimating the coverage of the 300M set. very_secure_password isn't in it. Try some passwords for yourself and see.

      8:20 AM - 5 Aug 2017
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        1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @marcan42 @spazef0rze and

          Random non obvious words from the dictionary aren't either. Seriously, it's not that bad. I'm tempted to add /use/share/dict/words to it.

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        2. Michal Špaček‏Verified account @spazef0rze 5 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @marcan42 @marcelsulek and

          Great :-) Checked some passwords cracked w/ http://crackstation.net  dictionary: exoddus Tbvfs1 9plams P1ll3d Neznašov Just the 1st is there.

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        1. Per Thorsheim‏Verified account @thorsheim 5 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @marcan42 @spazef0rze and

          Oh I know. heh. Ive got more than 306 million "passwords" lying around in various files.

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