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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

Tokyo, Japan
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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      I could, but that'd bloat my initramfs, and require retry scripts to ensure it stays connected, and complicate things.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      Also it still wouldn't let me have out of band serial access to this host like I do now with the double NAT trick.

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    3. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      Okay. Why NAT internally? Why not route?

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      Routing doesn't work on the inbound connections. I'd still need to NAT those.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      And once I'm doing that in the Netgear it means putting a bunch of per-service firewall rules in there I'd much rather keep in the x86 box.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      Basically you're proposing moving more duties/complexity back to the Netgear for the sake of avoiding a double NAT... why?

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    7. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      You ask a fair question. One that I can't readily answer. Thus I'm re-evaluating.

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    8. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      Generally, NAT, is considered less than desirable. NAT can complicate things like tracing packets.

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    9. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      Let's not forget the implications that NAT has with questionable protocols.

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    10. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      Though two or more NATs is probably negligibly worse than a single NAT.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      That's the thing. Nothing really sees/notices the NAT in the middle except the two routers on either side.

      10:14 AM - 23 Jun 2017
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        1. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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          Okay. I still don't like it. 😋

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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          I should post a diagram of my home net sometime. It's physically very simple, and logically rather complex.

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