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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

Tokyo, Japan
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    1. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      Double NATing has it's uses. Using it to avoid IP conflicts like this is not fun in any way shape or form.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      I actually double NAT for my home internet. But the first layer is 1:1, even pings get NATed. Except one TCP port.

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    3. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      Are you doing double NAT by choice? If so, why? I'm curious.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      I moved most of my routing duties to an x86 box, but I still terminate the PPPoE connection in my OpenWRT Netgear.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      The reason is remote unlock, so I don't have to stick a PPPoE client in my initramfs. Also I have remote access to a serial console via SSH.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      Actually I run two PPPoE sessions, and only one (v4) terminates in the Netgear. The other passes through (no NAT or extra routing hop on v6)

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    7. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      Okay. I don't think I would have chosen that. To each his own. You have logical reasons, so no complaint here.

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      I mean, my only other option was to stick a PPPoE client in my initramfs. Keeping all routing duties on the Netgear wasn't an option (perf).

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    9. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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      I get the preference. Why couldn't you put the PPPoE client & creds in the initramfs?

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      I could, but that'd bloat my initramfs, and require retry scripts to ensure it stays connected, and complicate things.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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      Also it still wouldn't let me have out of band serial access to this host like I do now with the double NAT trick.

      9:58 AM - 23 Jun 2017
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        1. Grant Taylor‏ @DrScriptt 23 Jun 2017
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          Okay. Why NAT internally? Why not route?

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Jun 2017
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          Routing doesn't work on the inbound connections. I'd still need to NAT those.

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