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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Jun 2017
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      What good are security features without an OS to apply them to?

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    2. twiz‏ @lazytyped 5 Jun 2017
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      What good is an OS without hardware to run it on? What good is hardware without mankind? Should we bring mankind in every conversation?

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    3. twiz‏ @lazytyped 5 Jun 2017
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      We are talking creating security features here. Everything else that Linux accomplished is orthogonal. There is no 'debt' to Linux.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Jun 2017
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      Grsecurity isn't a magical set of OS-agnostic security features. It's a *Linux kernel patchset*. There's a big difference.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Jun 2017
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      And since Linux is GPLv2 (and so is grsecurity), there's no 'debt' to grsecurity either. You fork GPLv2 code, upstream gets to upstream it.

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    6. twiz‏ @lazytyped 5 Jun 2017
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      Indeed, so we agree. And agree that copyright needs to be respected (and, beyond all, it should be respected morally).

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    7. twiz‏ @lazytyped 5 Jun 2017
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      The advances that GRSEC/PaX has brought in the field have benefitted more than just Linux. And it could be made OS agnostic.

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    8. twiz‏ @lazytyped 5 Jun 2017
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      But again, we dwell into philosophy and miss the point: KSPP has not brought any security advance over grsec -so far-. That's a fact.

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    9. twiz‏ @lazytyped 5 Jun 2017
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      And there's nothing wrong with that, except that I don't like the copy-pasting without understanding the code that is going on.

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    10. twiz‏ @lazytyped 5 Jun 2017
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      Replying to @lazytyped @marcan42 and

      I don't give a damn about people's personal beefs, but I deeply care about giving credit to great technical work. That's not happening today

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Jun 2017
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      Replying to @lazytyped @citypw @bleidl

      If you actually dig deeper into the "copyright issues" with KSPP, you'll note that they're nitpicks, legitimate mistakes, or just wrong

      5:47 AM - 5 Jun 2017
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        1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Jun 2017
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          Also, if you dig deeper into grsecurity itself, you'll find problems, like lack of changelog attribution for older changes

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 5 Jun 2017
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          grsecurity is trying as hard as it can to make it difficult to merge while attributing properly, by virtue of being a monolithic patch

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        1. twiz‏ @lazytyped 5 Jun 2017
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          Everything can be reduced to a "legitimate mistake" based on your narrative. That's why I stay technical

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