Hector Martin

That's not my concerns. I still think LF/CII should buy me PaX/Grsec's test patch. Spender/PaX team treated us well in past 16 yrs until..

It makes no sense to blame other people for Spender's decision to stop sharing. That decision is his and his alone.

it make sense to me and some other ppl. We made our point very clear: https://hardenedlinux.github.io/announcement/2017/04/29/hardenedlinux-statement2.html …

I read that article. The whole "upstream/KSPP takes and gives nothing back" narrative is complete nonsense.

grsecurity takes... the entire rest of the kernel from upstream. Guess what's more important, the grsec patch, or everything else?

The whole point of the GPLv2 is that we all benefit from everyone's work. grsecurity stopped sharing, so now we have to use what they left.

Obviously it will take time to improve upstream sec to the point where grsecurity is today... but once it's done the benefits are obvious.

Yes, grsec innovated and did so first. That doesn't mean they get a free pass to shit on everyone else and blame them for pulling the plug.