Some of us are sick of what grsec/spender has been doing... spender apparently bans people just for saying hi on the KSPP mailing list.
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That's not my concerns. I still think LF/CII should buy me PaX/Grsec's test patch. Spender/PaX team treated us well in past 16 yrs until..
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It makes no sense to blame other people for Spender's decision to stop sharing. That decision is his and his alone.
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it make sense to me and some other ppl. We made our point very clear: https://hardenedlinux.github.io/announcement/2017/04/29/hardenedlinux-statement2.html …
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I read that article. The whole "upstream/KSPP takes and gives nothing back" narrative is complete nonsense.
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grsecurity takes... the entire rest of the kernel from upstream. Guess what's more important, the grsec patch, or everything else?
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The whole point of the GPLv2 is that we all benefit from everyone's work. grsecurity stopped sharing, so now we have to use what they left.
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Obviously it will take time to improve upstream sec to the point where grsecurity is today... but once it's done the benefits are obvious.
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Yes, grsec innovated and did so first. That doesn't mean they get a free pass to shit on everyone else and blame them for pulling the plug.
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IMOHO, spender never shit on anyone. He is simply telling the truth. I don't care anyone else's personal character but the solution itself.
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Spender *loves* to shit on people. Either you care about his attitude or not. If you don't, that's fine. But you don't get to blame others.
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You can't say "I don't care about spender's attitude but waaaahmbulance now I can't get his code and it isn't his fault".
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It *IS* his fault. He made the damn decision. Stop blaming others.
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