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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

Tokyo, Japan
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    1. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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      Okay, but relevant implies technical merits. Emotional (your beef with spender) or legal (for which there are lawyers) ones are orthogonal

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      My beef with spender is irrelevant, but spender's attitude towards pretty much everyone else in kernel dev is relevant, as is licensing.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      Non-technical merits like those are actually critically important to acceptance of a free software project. They can make or break it.

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    4. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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      Sure, but let's not go off topic. The topic was "KSPP making Grsec/PaX irrelevant".I take that you agree these are not competing technically

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      My point is that being upstreamed is as much a technical achievement as coming up with the mitigations in the first place.

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    6. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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      Then your point is fairly questionable

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      Well, @paxteam himself claims the upstreaming effort would be a vast undertaking, so...

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    8. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42 @_pablosole_ and

      So, you seem to undermine the complexity of writing good mitigations. And for how long they have been available along with the source code

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      They've been available in monolithic, history-free patch form and their authors have repeatedly mocked any attempts at upstreaming them.

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    10. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42 @_pablosole_ and

      This is vastly false, you see what you want to see. Check the KSPP archives for how much the PaX Team has helped there

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @lazytyped @_pablosole_ and

      Feel free to link to those; I just keep seeing comments like this: https://lwn.net/Articles/699314/ …

      10:00 AM - 27 Apr 2017
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        1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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          You also have to consider that their failure to work with other people severely undermines some of their code.

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        2. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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          Replying to @marcan42 @_pablosole_ and

          Your experience in working with them is of course different from mine :)

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