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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. comex‏ @comex 26 Apr 2017
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      lol, grsecurity went fully closed, probably in an attempt to stop the Kernel Self Protection Project from making it obsolete

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    2. twiz‏ @lazytyped 26 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @comex @marcan42

      What innovation has the Kernel Self Protection brought over Grsec/PaX? I don't really see them as competing

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    3. Pablo Sole‏ @_pablosole_ 26 Apr 2017
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      None. It is a feature by feature (partially implemented) rip off, even acknowledged.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 26 Apr 2017
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      It includes the important feature of not being run by spender. Also, it's legal (unlike grsec which is a GPL violation) and mergeable.

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    5. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42 @_pablosole_ @comex

      Okay, but relevant implies technical merits. Emotional (your beef with spender) or legal (for which there are lawyers) ones are orthogonal

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      My beef with spender is irrelevant, but spender's attitude towards pretty much everyone else in kernel dev is relevant, as is licensing.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      Non-technical merits like those are actually critically important to acceptance of a free software project. They can make or break it.

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    8. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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      Sure, but let's not go off topic. The topic was "KSPP making Grsec/PaX irrelevant".I take that you agree these are not competing technically

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      My point is that being upstreamed is as much a technical achievement as coming up with the mitigations in the first place.

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    10. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42 @_pablosole_ @comex

      Then your point is fairly questionable

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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      Replying to @lazytyped @_pablosole_ @comex

      Well, @paxteam himself claims the upstreaming effort would be a vast undertaking, so...

      9:49 AM - 27 Apr 2017
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        1. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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          Replying to @marcan42 @_pablosole_ and

          So, you seem to undermine the complexity of writing good mitigations. And for how long they have been available along with the source code

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2017
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          Replying to @lazytyped @_pablosole_ and

          They've been available in monolithic, history-free patch form and their authors have repeatedly mocked any attempts at upstreaming them.

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        1. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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          Replying to @marcan42 @_pablosole_ and

          It's not a surprise that some are misunderstood in the KSPP effort. And that are the simpler ones getting traction.

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        2. twiz‏ @lazytyped 27 Apr 2017
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          This is not meant to undermine the KSPP effort, which I appreciate, but again to put things in perspective w.r.t. comex's comment

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