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Hector Martin
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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Chip‏ @stillchip 24 Feb 2017
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      Chip Retweeted Hector Martin

      To make the data the *same* should still require massive trial and error or intense math, if the checksum is done correctly.https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/835131758702030850 …

      Chip added,

      Hector Martin @marcan42
      Replying to @stillchip @travisgoodspeed
      Getting two chunks to collide requires intense math. Adding the *same* data after them maintains the collision.
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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Feb 2017
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      Replying to @stillchip

      Making the data the same just requires... copy and paste. The only tricky part is making the PDF render differently for each copy

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Feb 2017
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      Hector Martin Retweeted Erling Ellingsen

      Make your own colliding PDFs if you don't believe me:https://twitter.com/steike/status/834826657768865793 …

      Hector Martin added,

      Erling Ellingsen @steike
      Make your own colliding PDFs: https://alf.nu/SHA1 
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    4. Chip‏ @stillchip 24 Feb 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42

      Didn't say I didn't believe you. Just that it seems weird that a poor design lasted this long/how long has it been abused?

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Feb 2017
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      I'm not sure why you think this is poor design. It's a requirement of pretty much every hash, in order to be streamable.

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    6. Chip‏ @stillchip 24 Feb 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42

      Streamable PDF?

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Feb 2017
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      Streamable hash. Or are you talking about the bit where you can make two PDFs look different if only a few bytes change?

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    8. Chip‏ @stillchip 24 Feb 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42

      It just doesn't seem secure for the static document.

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Feb 2017
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      Replying to @stillchip

      No file format guarantees anything of this sort. What you can do varies but security is never based on something like this.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Feb 2017
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      Replying to @marcan42 @stillchip

      For example, in most file formats you can change a length field and completely change the interpretation of the file.

      6:57 AM - 24 Feb 2017
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        2. Chip‏ @stillchip 24 Feb 2017
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          That I understand.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 24 Feb 2017
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          Replying to @stillchip

          (and that is how this one works too, changing a length field in a JPEG header that happens to be embedded in a PDF)

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