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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

Tokyo, Japan
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    1. Carlos Rodrigues‏ @carlosefr 29 Sep 2016
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      So, a one-liner brings down systemd as an unprivileged user. Why the fuck is this reported via twitter and not a proper bug report?

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Sep 2016
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      Not me, but if it were me: because people have been telling the systemd folks how moronic is to have this in PID 1 for *years*.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Sep 2016
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      When your development model pretty much *guarantees* a plethora of bugs like this, what's the point of responsible disclosure?

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    4. Carlos Rodrigues‏ @carlosefr 29 Sep 2016
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      Because responsible disclosure isn't for the user's sake, not the developers? The guy only opened the bug report *after* posting.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Sep 2016
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      RD only works when bugs are scarce enough. If your model is broken and anyone can look at the code and find bugs, RD fails.

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    6. Carlos Rodrigues‏ @carlosefr 29 Sep 2016
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      However you spin it, it's the *users* that pay the price for the guy's 15 minutes of fame. That's unacceptable in my book.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Sep 2016
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      Short-term, yes. Long-term, deserved shaming *might* have more positive effects on the development model, benefiting users.

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    8. Carlos Rodrigues‏ @carlosefr 29 Sep 2016
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      What has even more positive effects is enough contributions from outside the core devs to make a difference.

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Sep 2016
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      When the core devs have stubbornly decided on the wrong design, outside contributions can rarely change that.

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    10. Carlos Rodrigues‏ @carlosefr 29 Sep 2016
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      systemd is now on every major distribution. Any of those can gather enough resources to shift the balance.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Sep 2016
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      Given how every major distribution that currently defaults to systemd used something worse previously, not sure I trust them.

      5:02 AM - 29 Sep 2016
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        1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 29 Sep 2016
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          (as far as init systems that is; systemd is worse than all the non-init daemons/services it's trying to replace)

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