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Hector Martin
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Hector Martin

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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

Tokyo, Japan
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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2016
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      @marver @pmarreck @grsecurity IIRC Java isn't even concurrency-safe, while Rust is. :)

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    2. Markus Vervier‏ @marver 27 Apr 2016
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      @marcan42 @marver @pmarreck @grsecurity will rust automatically make sure you get locking in a kernel right?

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2016
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      @marver @pmarreck Rust will at least make sure you can't segfault due to bad locking :-)

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Apr 2016
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      @marver @pmarreck You can still deadlock though.

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    5. Markus Vervier‏ @marver 27 Apr 2016
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      @marcan42 @pmarreck yes that and other flaws in logic leading to privesc. To quote @cynicalsecurity: "There will always be a Belgium"

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2016
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      @marver @pmarreck @cynicalsecurity Of course. It's no magic bullet, but it's still an interesting idea.

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    7. Markus Vervier‏ @marver 28 Apr 2016
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      @marcan42 @pmarreck @cynicalsecurity Yes I favour the idea of writing drivers in $notc. just the "get rid of C and solve security" is wrong.

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    8. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 28 Apr 2016
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      @marver @marcan42 @pmarreck removing C as a “security fix” is a red herring. Teaching software reliability is what you actually want to do…

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2016
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      @cynicalsecurity @marver @pmarreck No language stops bad code, but there is value in langs that make mistakes less likely.

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2016
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      @cynicalsecurity @marver @pmarreck "Get rid of C" is dumb, but writing more critical code in a safer lang would in practice help.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2016
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      @cynicalsecurity @marver @pmarreck And I say this as someone who likes C a lot. Still find the idea of Rust interesting. We'll see.

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        1. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 28 Apr 2016
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          @marcan42 @marver @pmarreck I like rust too but as an older cynical observer what I notice is a lack of education around reliability eng.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2016
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          @cynicalsecurity @marver @pmarreck Definitely. I'm more interested in Rust to make code more concise and help avoid silly bugs.

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        1. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 28 Apr 2016
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          @marcan42 @marver @pmarreck software reliability brings with it a discipline and mindshare which forces security as part of its processes

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        2. Markus Vervier‏ @marver 28 Apr 2016
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          @cynicalsecurity @marcan42 @marver @pmarreck Yes! There also seems to be a natural connection between critical code and unsafe operations...

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        1. Arrigo Triulzi‏ @cynicalsecurity 28 Apr 2016
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          @marcan42 @marver @pmarreck instead of as an afterthought which is what we see over and over again. Language is important but process too.

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