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Hector Martin
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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

Tokyo, Japan
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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 10
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      So here is an interesting copyright question to ponder: are we allowed to redistribute binaries of open source software that have been compiled and signed by Apple?

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 10
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      Recovery mode on Apple Silicon will only run Apple-Signed binaries, but that includes any random thing from macOS. You can just run /usr/bin/python from a macOS partition. But what if I want to use python without having a full macOS installed? Can I just redistribute those?

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 10
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      Effectively: does merely compiling (without making any changes vs. published, freely-licensed open source code) an application create a derivative work? My understanding is no, because there is no originality involved in the process, it is purely mechanical.

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    4. tbodt‏ @tblodt Jan 10
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      you can't create this binary with only the sources though, you also need a code signing certificate which is not covered by an open source license

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 10
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      You can create the *binary* (as in the text section) with only the sources; only the binary code as in the processor opcodes and data is covered by copyright. Digital signatures and keys are not copyrightable AIUI.

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    6. Adam [he/him]‏ @adammw Jan 10
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      Odd question, can you recompile python from source to get the exact same binary section? Or are they using non-detetministic compilation?

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    7. Adam [he/him]‏ @adammw Jan 10
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      Just thinking if you can reproduce the same build from open source, then the derivative work would only be the signature?

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 10
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      Yup, that would be a very interesting experiment (and workaround). Would be fun if someone tried that :)

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        1. Adam [he/him]‏ @adammw Jan 10
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          Replying to @marcan42 @tblodt

          Don't personally have an M1, I'm holding out for an M1X or M2.. hopefully through work

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