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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 3
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      I'm trying Zulip and it's... overcomplicated? I can see how topics make sense in certain larger communities with lots of task management (like Rust), but not really for a project like Asahi Linux. And then there's the bad first impression their approach to auth gave me already.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 3
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      Plus most of these haven't reached critical mass / appeal, except Discord and Slack (out for the aforementioned reasons)... and IRC.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 3
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      And so I'm left with the idea of just having a freenode channel, with @whitequark's logging bot in it, letting people bridge in via the Matrix bridge at least until that becomes a problem, and calling it a day...

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 3
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      Yes, it's terrible, it's plain text only, it has no sane file transfer, it has no log integration, it's not particularly newbie-friendly... but nothing else seems to be strictly better in enough ways. And at least I already know how it works and so do most FOSS devs. 🤷‍♂️

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 3
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      I haven't made my decision yet, feel free to try to change my mind.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 3
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      To everyone saying Discord this Discord that: look, I'm in more Discord servers than IRC channels these days, I get Discord. I still think it's not the right option for this project, and enough people I care about would never use it.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 3
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      One thing that *might* end up happening is dev chat on IRC, user chat on Discord, or something along those lines.

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    8. Niaz‏ @TigreXspalterLP Jan 3
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      Replying to @marcan42

      You can create a bridge between IRC and Discord with https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc … orhttps://github.com/qaisjp/go-discord-irc …

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    9. Ave‏ @warnvod Jan 3
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      Replying to @TigreXspalterLP @marcan42

      Creating an IRC user per discord user sounds really heavy, especially considering how popular this topic is and how it'll end up with thousands of users easily. I don't know about anyone else, but I for one don't want several thousand part/join notifs when the bot crashes or smth

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    10. Ave‏ @warnvod Jan 3
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      Replying to @warnvod @TigreXspalterLP @marcan42

      Not to say that IRC bridging is a bad idea, just saying that this particular solution may not be ideal.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 4
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      Replying to @warnvod @TigreXspalterLP

      #glasgow has a single-user bridge. On the Discord side it does do some API magic to shop up as different users, but on the IRC side it shows up as one user. That's mildly inconvenient, but better than the alternative most likely...

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        2. leo60228‏ @leo60228 Jan 4
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          Replying to @marcan42 @warnvod @TigreXspalterLP

          it might be possible to write a small irc extension to do this, while still having the single-user behavior for unsupported clients i believe that irssi supports custom ircv3 tags via plugins?

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 Jan 4
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          Replying to @leo60228 @warnvod @TigreXspalterLP

          Yeah, it should be pretty easy to write an irssi script to make this visually nicer. I might do that if we go the Discord bridge route.

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