I'm looking for chat platforms for Asahi Linux, and my conclusion is slowly leaning towards "IRC is terrible, and everything else is worse".
Requirements: open protocol, data portability, cloud hosted (but option to self-host).
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Mattermost and Rocket Chat are just Slack clones mostly intended for businesses to self-host or pay for cloud subs. I've used both. I'm not very impressed.
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I'm trying Zulip and it's... overcomplicated? I can see how topics make sense in certain larger communities with lots of task management (like Rust), but not really for a project like Asahi Linux. And then there's the bad first impression their approach to auth gave me already.
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Plus most of these haven't reached critical mass / appeal, except Discord and Slack (out for the aforementioned reasons)... and IRC.
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And so I'm left with the idea of just having a freenode channel, with
@whitequark's logging bot in it, letting people bridge in via the Matrix bridge at least until that becomes a problem, and calling it a day...Show this thread -
Yes, it's terrible, it's plain text only, it has no sane file transfer, it has no log integration, it's not particularly newbie-friendly... but nothing else seems to be strictly better in enough ways. And at least I already know how it works and so do most FOSS devs.
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I haven't made my decision yet, feel free to try to change my mind.
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To everyone saying Discord this Discord that: look, I'm in more Discord servers than IRC channels these days, I get Discord. I still think it's not the right option for this project, and enough people I care about would never use it.
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One thing that *might* end up happening is dev chat on IRC, user chat on Discord, or something along those lines.
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I think you're selling Matrix short tbf. Federation is a detail you don't have to deal with if you don't care about it (put your room on http://matrix.org ), and I fail to see how you avoid "moderation headaches" anyway without losing the other properties you care about.
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(And yes, bridges are a pain -- again, given that none of your alternatives are better in that aspect, I fail to see how that's an argument against Matrix at least trying?)
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