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Hector Martin
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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

Tokyo, Japan
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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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      We're back to square one. What's the *point* of those nonfree repos? Again, this is misrepresentation. Either you have blobs, or you don't. If you do, why is it so important that you stash them so the user doesn't need to care or know about them? Enable the damn nonfree repos.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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      Like do you *realize* the blatant doublethink this whole thing reeks of? "Our users dislike blobs, so instead of asking them to enable blobs, were going to provide blobs in a way they don't have to care about so they won't be disgusted by our blobs"

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    3. dos‏ @dos1 23 Dec 2020
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      But the blobs are there anyway in much more places, even in the SD card or touchscreen controller - I doubt I have to explain that to *you* :P

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    4. dos‏ @dos1 23 Dec 2020
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      What's important to me is whether I have to reach for non-free blobs when I build software to run on the user-oriented execution unit, and whether those blobs run on that unit itself. Getting rid of blobs contained in the hardware is also important, but it's a next, distinct step

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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      Why? Why is that important to you? Do you get digital cooties if you touch a blob? Not running blobs on the main CPU has practical advantages. Not *touching* blobs with the main CPU serves no purpose. That's just FSF religious nonsense.

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    6. dos‏ @dos1 23 Dec 2020
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      It's about clear boundaries. 100% of PureOS is free software, with all the user freedom benefits it brings. If it had non-free repos with blobs, it wouldn't be true anymore. And introducing blobs into OS for devices that could very well embed it themselves is not worth it.

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    7. dos‏ @dos1 23 Dec 2020
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      Sure, the blob is still there. But so are the blobs in all the other microcontrollers there that were already self-contained. Why make the OS "99% free plus some blobs" when you control the hardware it runs on and can maintain that boundary?

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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      Because the boundary isn't doing anything for the user. It's religious. What blobs you run has practical consequences. What blobs you touch with the CPU doesn't. The FSF has built a narrative that touching blobs is bad, and the tradeoffs to implement it hurt users.

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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      "100% of PureOS is free software (required blobs not considered part of PureOS)" "100% of this burger is gluten-free (burger definition excludes the buns)" "100% of this car is electric (combustion engine required to drive hybrid powertrain is a separate purchase)"

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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      This nonsense means I can take an off the shelf computer with an Nvidia GPU, build some horrible hack so that the UEFI steals CPU core #0 (the boot CPU) and runs Nvidia's driver on it with an API, bootstraps the main OS on the other cores, and now it Respects Your Freedom.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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      Look ma, the application CPUs never touched blobs! You can run 100% free software on it! It's the freest computer ever! With high performance graphics! Do you realize how ridiculous this is?

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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          Heck if I did it the Purism way, all I'd have to do is have an open firmware that bootstraps an open loader on an aux core that gets isolated by UEFI, which then itself loads the blob from the VBIOS flash that the card already has. Yay, RYF Nvidia machine.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 23 Dec 2020
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          But anyway, I shouldn't be wasting my time here, because I just signed up for a multi-year project to reverse engineer and write a free software replacement for one of the largest sets of blobs that has ever been done for, the entire Apple M1 driver set including GPU.

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