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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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      Storytime: I did some pentesting and advising work for Nintendo after they approached me (via email, not stalking) in 2015. This was professional work on a freelance/consulting basis. That NDA has expired. I won't talk about project details but let's talk about how that went.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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      The people I worked with, including engineers and lawyers from all three main branches of Nintendo (NCL, NOA, NERD) were largely very nice people. Communication was formal. Sadly, the project was hampered by corporate policy, politics, and mistrust, as often happens.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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      I was able to accomplish some smaller goals, and give advice on direction, but I sadly wasn't able to have high impact because the environment didn't allow me to. This was, as usual, largely due to management, not the people I worked with directly.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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      The leaked documents show some of these same problems internal to Nintendo. They paint a story of a large multinational with communication, focus, and trust issues across cultures and teams, which is sadly common. (Read beyond the ninja docs, there's more)

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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      Remember, corporations are made of people, and those people are often trying to do good. It's the corporate structure, and the people in specific (usually higher) positions that end up making things go wrong. So keep that in mind as you read through the leaked docs.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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      What about the stalking? Well, way back in the Wii days, they were already using similar tactics. After bushing tried to responsibly disclose (!) an issue, Jodi Daugherty, former director/lawyer at NOA, tracked down his work phone and called him, as an intimidatory tactic.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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      This approach clearly continued with neimod in 2013. It seems things changed sometime between then and when they approached me in 2015. All of my conversations were cordial, starting over email, then phone and in-person. Nobody ever came anywhere near my house as far as I know.

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    8. RvLeshrac‏ @RvLeshrac 22 Dec 2020
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      That's a weird statement. Of course you wouldn't know. You just recited the playbook from that document. "Contact cordially via email, and then if they react negatively hit them in the face with a sledgehammer."

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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      Maybe, but then everyone I worked with was an excellent actor, even the people who have since left Nintendo, which seems unlikely. They didn't say "stop hacking our stuff". They said "hey, are you interested in helping us secure our stuff?".

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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          I have pretty good reasons to believe that they really did change their tune post-Jodi.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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          Of course, none of this excuses their prior actions. I'm just giving you a data point a few years later.

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        2. RvLeshrac‏ @RvLeshrac 22 Dec 2020
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          That's the playbook from the document, as well. "Hey wouldn't you like to help us" followed by "If you don't help us, you might be helping piracy!" followed by "If you don't help us, we're going to hit you with this stick."

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 22 Dec 2020
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          On paper sure, but that theory is unfalsifiable because you could paint *any* such offer to a security researcher as an execution of the playbook, regardless of whether it is or isn't. The point is I got zero evidence that they were following the playbook with me.

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