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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      Hey, remember I was mentioning 0-ohm resistors yesterday? Here's one!pic.twitter.com/0O8S0Uzf75

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    2. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      I wonder if I could hook up a programmer to the right pads on this thing and reprogram the arm chip? It's going to have the program stored onboard (there's no eeprom/flash chips anywhere)... maybe I could dump it?

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    3. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      So, the keyboard, the reason we're here... It uses a flat flex connector, since it's directly on that transparent material that all cheap terrible keyboards are. 11 connectors.pic.twitter.com/ATwgnq7hEz

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    4. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      You can see a bit through the back that there's separate pads for each button, so I can already guess how this works. It's two flexible plastic layers, with contacts on each, which touch when you push them down.pic.twitter.com/rPjgzWPab4

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    5. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      Here's the fun part, though: when you look at the top, there's no gap here... they put this together and glued it on. There's really no way to remove this that doesn't destroy it. So I can't just look at the button matrix and reverse it, unless I want to buy another otter.pic.twitter.com/XqrreIMwLA

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    6. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      But hey, we can do educated guesses and then test 'em. We've got 4 rows, 7 columns. Hmm, what does that add up to? oh, yeah, 11... this is just a simple matrix.pic.twitter.com/XU9vmwCFhI

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    7. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      But I'll need some way to connect to this thing. Now, normally they just do that horrible flat-flex-to-PCB press fit thing, but here there's actually a really simple answer to the "how do I connect to this" question...pic.twitter.com/jMs8huX0Dz

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    8. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      I've got the connector right here. I just need to desolder it from the board.pic.twitter.com/CfYCTHsLZU

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    9. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      if you look closely at where the PCB disappears into the plastic, it looks like 7 of the traces go left, and 4 go right. so probably the 4 on the right are the rows, and the 7 on the left are the columnspic.twitter.com/fBmE5lqg7k

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    10. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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      I tried beeping out the matrix with a multimeter but had no luck. I think I'm just not getting a good connection to the flat flex. So yeah, desoldering time

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Jun 2020
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      Replying to @Foone

      The buttons might have too high resistance for continuity mode on your multimeter. Have you checked in resistance mode?

      8:47 PM - 20 Jun 2020
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        2. Random832‏ @Random832 20 Jun 2020
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          Replying to @marcan42 @Foone

          An ad for a similar type of keypad mentions contact resistance of "<100 ohms"https://www.globalsources.com/si/AS/Acemi-Optronics/6008821994319/pdtl/Membrane-Keyboard/1002733392.htm …

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        3. foone‏ @Foone 20 Jun 2020
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          the resistance ended up being around 80 ohms

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