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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 Jun 2020
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      So here's a question, particularly for POCs. Is "master" a problematic word when not juxtaposed with "slave"? My guess is not, because the word has a much broader meaning in English, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 Jun 2020
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      Example usages: master document, audio master(ing)/master recording, master of an art/technique, master of ceremonies, git master branch, etc. All seem pretty standard and free from slavery connotations, but I'm not qualified to opine.

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    3. Sam Bingner‏ @sbingner 12 Jun 2020
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      Master / slave has no reason to be bad unless it is in relation to people. It makes perfect sense for databases etc.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Jun 2020
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      Nah, master/slave is bad terminology in tech because it's overloaded too much. "primary/replica" is a lot more descriptive for databases, or "active/standby" for automated failover styles in particular. master/slave doesn't say much.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Jun 2020
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      Even if you think master/slave is not an issue due to the slavery association, I still wouldn't use those terms for anything I design just because they kind of suck at actually describing what's going on.

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    6. Matthew‏ @MatthewNoel 12 Jun 2020
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      I really only think of master/slave in connotation with IDE drives. I’m trying to think of a good word combo for that, which is kind of useless anyway since it’s more or less a dead technology.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Jun 2020
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      That's the worst one of them all, since they're literally just addresses. Primary/secondary or literally just slot 1/2 would work much better.

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        1. Matthew‏ @MatthewNoel 12 Jun 2020
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          Yeah agreed! I actually took a look and apparently the PATA connected drives that are made now don’t use the master/slave terminology anymore. The manufacturers already settled on Primary & Secondary or Device 0 & Device 1. TIL!

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        1. Sam Bingner‏ @sbingner 12 Jun 2020
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          Yeah this one is obsolete, used to be that the primary device actually did more and handled stuff for the secondary iirc but not since IDE?

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