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Hector Martin
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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      Intel: "Hey, you know what would be a great idea? If we reused the same shared buffer for CPUID and RDRAND output, and shared it across all cores, and always loaded the whole thing, not just requested data." Their security incompetence truly knows no bounds.pic.twitter.com/nBtfGLEroj

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    2. Andrew Wygle‏ @awygle 9 Jun 2020
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      I mean this in all sincerity - why is this a problem?

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      Because now you're broadcasting extremely sensitive data (as in: all your private keys are belong to us) intended for one core to all cores. That breaks down the core isolation boundary, making the security as weak as hyperthread isolation. And we know that one is really weak.

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        2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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          It's been this story time and time and time again. Intel CPUs have *no* security boundaries in speculation. Their only security boundary is instruction retirement. They have zero compartmentalization or defense in depth. It's insane.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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          Like, this is the moral equivalent of running your web Javascript VM interpreter in kernel mode - no, better, inside the hypervisor outside the guest running Chrome, because surely it has no bugs and why would you ever need any other security layers or defense mechanisms?

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        2. Marko Mantere‏ @MarkoMantere 9 Jun 2020
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          I'm not an CPU architecture expert but even to me the idea of sharing R/W resources across cores like this sounds bad.

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        3. POWERFUL CRAB FART 🦀‏ @FartCrab 11 Jun 2020
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          Large shared caches are a big factor in modern performance improvements for many years, it’s an unavoidable situation now that we’re hitting a hard wall on core frequencies. It just needs to be implemented carefully which Intel did not do

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