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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      Hector Martin Retweeted Arsenio Dev

      I just got one of these and I would've documented it, but @Ascii211 already did, so there you go. It's surprisingly good bang/buck, though the MJPEG quality isn't great (esp. the chroma); definitely better on YUV but you lose framerate. I have some USB3 units ordered. We'll seehttps://twitter.com/Ascii211/status/1268631069051453448 …

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      Got one of those "camlink" USB converters because I was curious about em, and WHOAH I was shocked. UVC output, 20ms delay and signal looks to be properly grabbing 1080P@30. Single chip solution under a small sink and costs under $20. What in the heck is this. pic.twitter.com/J7HYM3cf3M
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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      And yes it eats up HDCP streams no problem.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      Looks like you don't get all 1920 pixels horizontally, though. It seems to be more like half the horizontal res, due to some kind of filtering. You do get 1080 lines though. So 960x1080 effectively? First image is the cheap thing, second is an AverMedia LGP2 (crop of 1080p frame)pic.twitter.com/kwANLY2wWZ

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      At 1280x720 you do get all the pixels you paid for, though, but there is some kind of horizontal sharpening being applied. Again, compared against the LGP2.pic.twitter.com/NREwPMiR0o

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      (Right click and open those images at original resolution to get the proper idea; Twitter always scales by default)

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      I would rate the artifacts at 720p as a bit worse than the LGP2, but not terrible (chinese left, LGP2 right). This is after adjusting the brightness/contrast/saturation/hue on both to attempt to match the original image (neither has good defaults).pic.twitter.com/sVYN4OVp5t

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      So I would call this a fairly capable 720p capture card overall, and only slightly lower performance at that resolution than devices that cost 10 times as much. At 1080p things are a bit messier, but it does work.

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    8. Iris Johnson‏ @modwizcode 9 Jun 2020
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      Replying to @marcan42

      Any idea why they seem to actively have applied filtering that makes the quality significantly worse? I could understand if it was an analogue capture since the filtering is harder to get right but this is HDMI...

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      Replying to @modwizcode

      Maybe it can't actually encode 2 megapixels worth of JPEG, and they cheat by halving the resolution and just padding the coefficients with zeroes on the right side?

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    10. Iris Johnson‏ @modwizcode 9 Jun 2020
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      Replying to @marcan42

      I totally overlooked the need to do the MJPEG compression. Still, it does seem to have some sort of capture ASIC and I feel like MJPEG would be an obvious built-in feature, and 2M is not... a large image. That probably wouldn't explain the weird sharpening for 720p though.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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      Replying to @modwizcode

      The MJPEG is definitely done in hardware, but that IP block might be underpowered. Or maybe it's a bitrate thing. Or a limitation of the pixel interface or some other layer.

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        1. Arsenio Dev‏ @Ascii211 9 Jun 2020
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          Replying to @marcan42 @modwizcode

          Sadly there isn't firmware to poke through to see more about the data flow.

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        2. Loïc Yhuel‏ @LYhuel 9 Jun 2020
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          Replying to @marcan42 @modwizcode

          Are the captured frames the same or similar for p30 and p60 input ? An intermediate 960x1080p60 with half the pixel clock could explain the artifacts, but then I don't know how it could transform into 1080p30 without any DRAM.

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 9 Jun 2020
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          Replying to @LYhuel @modwizcode

          It needs RAM to stream YUV frames slower anyway... And only having 1 megapixel worth of built-in RAM would explain the limitation too.

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