Okay, I knew Dave Jones / EEVblog had some poor attitudes, but I didn't realize it was this bad. If you're following him, know that this is what you're condoning.https://twitter.com/MLE_Online/status/1269082992414097408 …
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Hector Martin Retweeted Emily Velasco
Okay, I knew Dave Jones / EEVblog had some poor attitudes, but I didn't realize it was this bad. If you're following him, know that this is what you're condoning.https://twitter.com/MLE_Online/status/1269082992414097408 …
Hector Martin added,
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/gender-politics-has-now-infected-engineering-as-well/375/ … ... https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/gender-politics-has-now-infected-engineering-as-well/75/ … this whole thread is pretty depressing...
I think this is once again purposely taken the wrong way: I am yet to see scientific evidence, that given exactly identical upbringing, all genders would have exactly identical probability distribution of having each and every interest/hobby. It does not say anything negative ...
of those taken the path. In fact, in many countries with weaker woman's rights like Iran the fraction of women in engineering careers is much higher - but those are also countries, where people choose their careers out of financial advantage more then out of liking the topic....
On the other hand, e.g. life sciences has mostly female students here. Is it a sign of discrimination? But to make it clear: no statistical discussion ever, ever, justifies imposing ANY assumptions on a particular person. This is what would be awful. Didn't see Dave do that.
He said that prominent women engineers only got on magazine covers because they're women.
It's not a big gap from "statistically women aren't engineers" to "you're not a real engineer because you're a women", hence we don't say the former either.
And women *are* discriminated against due to self-reinforcement feedback effects, thus pushing things in the other direction is *required* to be actually fair.
Pushing things and talking about statistics is by no means mutually exclusive. People though also need to learn to push through the "negative feedback" if they truly want something - this goes no less for any gender. If this is the strength we lack - this we need to teach.
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