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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 May 2020
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    Hector Martin Retweeted Mathias Payer

    I think every time I've tried to develop USB class compliant devices I've managed to crash OSes due to bugs in my device code... All of the OSes... Heck, some shipping devices will crash some OSes too. No surprises here. About time someone did it.https://twitter.com/gannimo/status/1265397262055813127 …

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    Mathias Payer @gannimo
    Ever wondered about the security of your USB stack? We've explored it and found 10 CVEs on Linux and several crashes on Windows and MacOS with just a bit of fuzzing. Paper is ready, source will come at #SEC20: https://nebelwelt.net/publications/files/20SEC3.pdf … Comments welcome! pic.twitter.com/buj8ov0noA
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      1. Dan Stoian‏ @stoiandan22 27 May 2020
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        Replying to @marcan42

        KVM is so performant, if you stick a USB killer, it kills the VM.

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      1. -(~RD) 💧‏ @0xRaindrop 27 May 2020
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        Replying to @marcan42

        Happens to me alot while i'm developing my USB assessment framework and testing it. I've enjoyed reading their paper.

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      1. Chakie‏ @jan_ekholm 27 May 2020
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        Replying to @marcan42

        Based on how badly USB works outside perfect happy cases it seems we need to burn down everything related to USB and figure out something minimal and easy. And perhaps not create 400 different physical connectors this time.

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      2. Kate Temkin‏ @ktemkin 27 May 2020
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        Replying to @marcan42

        This is one of a long line of efforts that do this — see umap2, and f-secure’s 2011 effort on top of QEMU virtual USB. (I’m sure the quoted work is awesome / novel, too.) It’s kind of telling that a decade of work exists in this area, and things haven’t improved on the OS side.

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      3. Marco Neumann‏ @crepererum 27 May 2020
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        Compared to network-based attacks, USB attacks are somewhat weaker, putting less pressure on OS devs to fix / harden their stacks: A) USB is on-side (or requires hijacking a connected device / bridge) B) it seems more complicated, esp considering how simple Metasploit & Co are

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      1. Diego Elio Pettenò‏ @flameeyes 27 May 2020
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        You mean like the glucometer that keeps resetting and causes a DoS on the udev event handler?https://flameeyes.blog/2019/08/26/beurer-gl50-linux-and-debug-interfaces/ …

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      2. ValdikSS‏ @ValdikSS 27 May 2020
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        Contrary to the researchers, I find bugs in USB drivers casually, just using the PC daily. Like this one, this is the latest I found. Inserting Huawei USB LTE modem deadlocks CDROM driver and what it seems tries to execute zero-ed or free-ed memory. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207317 …

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      1. Tim Brown‏ @timb_machine 27 May 2020
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        I know at least one OS that craps out despite not even supporting USB.

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      1. Nils Pipenbrinck‏ @torusle 27 May 2020
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        Oh yea, been there as well. Most "fun" was, when you accidentally trigger some workaround for quirky devices in the host stack and behaviour changes completely.

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