The more I look at AWS and the more I cannot understand how IBM missed the opportunity of using massive zSeries installs with Linux LPARs for cloud computing. All the I/O, security, etc. problems had already been solved. CloudHSM? Ha, z15-TO1 & friends, I/O? Ha… mainframe!
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Replying to @cynicalsecurity
If you think mainframes fundamentally solve security problems, we need to have a word about exploit mitigations in z/OS (or lack thereof). mainframes are equally or less secure than commodity x86. It's just that there are probably 2 people in the world trying to exploit them.
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Replying to @marcan42
Did you count me in or not? I spent quite some time hacking LPARs to little success, less now as I lost access to my hacking target, probably my incompetence but they actually had thought of stuff far more than x86.
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Replying to @cynicalsecurity
I wrote a trivial buffer overflow CTF level on z/OS USS, exploitable by dumping shellcode on the stack and overwriting the return addr. The kind of thing that hasn't worked on x86 for two decades... I mean, LPARs work, but so does Intel virtualization...
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Replying to @marcan42
I’m talking z/VM and LPARs in which you run Linux, z/OS is something different. Breaking that is more interesting from a rewards perspective… z/OS tools almost certainly have a gazillion vulnerabilities like anything Linux, Windows, macOS. The underlying hardware is better.
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Replying to @cynicalsecurity
Better in what way? z/Series had all the same standard speculation vulns as AMD https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=S390-Expoline-Linux-4.16 … (Intel is worse, but we've already established Intel are idiots when it comes to security; use literally anything else, doesn't have to be a mainframe).
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Replying to @marcan42
The architecture is designed around I/O, it isn’t an afterthought of subsequent layers of attempts at making it fast. The CPU suffers from the same problems which plague every single processor which need to speed up and went speculative. They all do.
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Okay but I was talking about security, not I/O :-) Yes, mainframes do particularly well on transactional I/O bound workloads, but that's not most of what people do on AWS.
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