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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 May 2020
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    Hector Martin Retweeted WIRED

    If you open your computer's case, it is already vulnerable to hacking, because no consumer x86 computer is secure under that threat model. Yes, this is another bullshit hyped attack with minimal practical consequence because under their threat model you are already pwned.https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1259669698494509056 …

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    A newly-found vulnerability in thunderbolt ports could leave any PC built before 2019 open to hacking—even if the machine is asleep or locked. https://wired.trib.al/OEOsP3W 
    7:47 AM - 11 May 2020
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      2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 May 2020
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        If your attack relies on soldering wires to a flash chip and/or getting root access to the computer, you are hereby banned from the news media.

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      3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 May 2020
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        Since the authors are getting nitpicky: If your attack relies on disassembling your computer, or one of your already trusted devices, and hooking up wires to it without technically soldering, you are still banned from the news media.

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      2. john‏ @let_mut_john 11 May 2020
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        Replying to @marcan42

        "Ruytenberg's technique, shown in the video below, requires unscrewing the bottom panel of a laptop to gain access to the Thunderbolt controller, then attaching an SPI programmer device with an SOP8 clip," ...lol.

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      3. Syler‏ @SylerClayton 11 May 2020
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        At that point, it's already a lost cause. I can understand being worried about something like Inception originally (i.e. just plug in to an unattended machine and lets go!). However, there's a certain level of evasiveness that just equals game over no matter what.

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      1. Mike Harrison‏ @meuon 11 May 2020
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        I always assume: if physical access is gained, all is lost. My travel laptop (Linux with encrypted drive) included.

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      1. CrypticChameleon‏ @CryptcChameleon 11 May 2020
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        If your machine with sensitive information is in a place where someone could open it up without anyone noticing, that is your security flaw.

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      1. José Albornoz‏ @eljojo 11 May 2020
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        So, you are telling me that complex computer systems are compromised when bad actors have access to their internals? Who knew!?

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      1. Yifan‏Verified account @yifanlu 11 May 2020
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        All their “attacks” are also applicable to the BIOS SPI which arguably causes more damage but is known and can’t be marketed as easily.

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      1. Mr Magic Man‏ @x_yoke_x 11 May 2020
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        Next paper will be about DOSing the machine with a sledge hammer. The attack only takes 15 seconds, and doesn’t even require you to open the laptop...

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      2. Björn Ruytenberg‏ @0Xiphorus 11 May 2020
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        Opening the computer's case is only possible method. The second just requires getting access to a victim device and cloning its identity. Can be done in under 5 mins; no unscrewing of the victim's laptop required. See 3.1.1 and 3.1.3 in the report. https://thunderspy.io/assets/reports/breaking-thunderbolt-security-bjorn-ruytenberg-20200417.pdf …

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      3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 11 May 2020
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        How exactly is "we can clone the identity of a trusted device by disassembling it and then do what the device was trusted to do" news again? Yes, if my friend has a copy of my keys and you break into his house, steal them, make a copy, you can come into my house. Duh?

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