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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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      Today in "ffmpeg's AAC encoder is still a embarrassment and nobody should ever use it": OBS on Windows using it, at 320kbps, makes music sound like a low bitrate mp3 (metallic hi-hats, etc). No problem with a custom OBS build on Gentoo with libfdk_aac enabled, at *160* kbps.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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      ffmpeg's terrible AAC encoder (and its documentation claiming it's not terrible) is literally responsible for basically every Twitch streamer's audio being crappy. Also I'm pretty sure Twitter uses it too.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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      It's extremely sad that it's 2020 and internet streaming and Twitter video are stuck with 90s era 96kbps mp3 quality audio, **because of bad code**, and apparently nobody cares.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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      OBS doesn't let you pick a codec for streaming, but it *does* let you configure a "recording" output that actually goes to an RTMP stream, and *that* lets you pick codecs, so you can pick MP3 and get way better audio quality than with the ffmpeg AAC encoder (at a lower bitrate).

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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      Honestly it's kind of funny how the open source world has best-in-class h.264 encoding (x264) and worst-in-class AAC encoding (ffmpeg aac) and those two are most often used together.

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    6. Ridley @ a safe distance‏ @11rcombs 28 Apr 2020
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      hey hey hey it's not as bad as vo_aacenc

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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      Anything that performs worse than MP3 is tied for last place.

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    8. Ridley @ a safe distance‏ @11rcombs 28 Apr 2020
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      VO is, to be clear, _much_ worse

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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      Is Google really using that in Android?

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    10. Ridley @ a safe distance‏ @11rcombs 28 Apr 2020
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      they used to! now they use FDK (which is why it's open-source-ish to begin with)

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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      So on the sample I'm testing now libfdk_aac actually does worse than LAME. Though to be fair, the original file was already an MP3, so that probably gives LAME a bit of an advantage.

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        2. Ridley @ a safe distance‏ @11rcombs 28 Apr 2020
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          qaac (QuickTime/AudioToolbox) is usually considered best-in-class fwiw

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 28 Apr 2020
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          Scratch the previous reply; libfdk_aac falls over with overshoots (makes sense, it's integer) and I was feeding it some fairly clipped mix. After lowering levels it's better than LAME.

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