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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 13 Apr 2020
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      In pop science getting things wrong: "Sperm whales are the loudest animal on Earth at 236 dB! That's enough to kill you!" Well, no. Sound pressure is measured differently in water and in air. Subtract ~61 dB for the equivalent SPL in air, 175 dB (same acoustic energy). And...

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 13 Apr 2020
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      ... if you're listening from outside the water, that's another ~30 dB loss from the impedance mismatch. Now you're at 145 dB. Still ear-damage level, right? Except sperm whales communicate in clicks which last 100 microseconds. Party balloons can produce > 160 dB impulses.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 13 Apr 2020
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      So you should be more worried about hearing damage from popping party balloons than from being outside the water next to a sperm whale. Also, howler monkeys blast out ~140 dB in air, *continuously*, which is a hell of a lot more impressive (especially per size), and dangerous.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 13 Apr 2020
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      Remember kids, it is not okay to read a research paper and go "number big, bigger number impressive, must write article" if you don't actually understand the subject matter.

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    5. jorin  💤  💜‏ @YawningJorin 13 Apr 2020
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      Any recommendations for reading about how volume works?

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 14 Apr 2020
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      From a scientific perspective, or from an audio engineering perspective? For the former I would say just Google it, but for the latter I might have some specific things to recommend if you want to go into details about mixing and such.

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    7. jorin  💤  💜‏ @YawningJorin 14 Apr 2020
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      I usually find out does help to have a cursory overview of the scientific basis to really understand the audio engineering aspects. Most resources seem lacking there to me and usually just go straight into abstract. But nevertheless, hit me with that audio engineering theory!

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 14 Apr 2020
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      Oh, you should absolutely have an overview of the scientific basis first :-). Just stumbled upon this Khan Academy video that does a good job covering what a dB really is (when talking about sound pressure level):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p-WyPg1sbU …

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 14 Apr 2020
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      After the the main thing to know is that there are tons of different dB scales (like that underwater one, or dBFS which is what you'll find in digital audio), with different reference points (the meaning of 0 dB), but they are all proportional to *power*, so +10 dB = 10x power.

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      For some things, like signal level, voltage, and pressure, the power goes up with the *square* of the quantity. Therefore 10x signal/voltage/pressure = 100x power = +20 dB. So you can convert from one dB unit to another by *adding or subtracting* some conversion constant.

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      (caveat: only when the scale does not imply some kind of variation with frequency; some dB scales are more complicated and that no longer holds overall) If your speakers are at a volume where full scale is 80 dB SPL, then 0 dBFS in a DAW is 80 dB SPL, -10 dBFS is 70 dB SPL, etc.

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        2. jorin  💤  💜‏ @YawningJorin 14 Apr 2020
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          Will have to read more thoroughly once I get home, thank you very much :)

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 14 Apr 2020
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          No problem! Then if you want to dive deeper into mixing and the audio engineering bits, I highly recommend Dan Worrall's tutorials at fabfilter (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6e8wfdmIuLGALV-6x3arKIK2Hw5Mjlxx … and https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6e8wfdmIuLEDpO3rd5jORcqsLrxCe9wX …) and his own channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/IIRs/videos …).

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