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Hector Martin
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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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      And h.264 is probably over 20 times more complex to decode than the older codec. Times 30 you're at 600. And nobody is putting exact seek into browser players because it's not going to work for HD video which multiplies the CPU usage again.

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    2. cancel/tumult‏ @tumult 10 Apr 2020
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      i don't understand what the times 30 is here

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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      h.264 frames can depend on an infinite number of frames before them. A more common setting is 30. That means decoding frame 30 requires decoding frames 1-29 too. So you need 30 times the CPU power to decode any *random* arbitrary frame in the time it normally takes to decode one.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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      Try encoding your video on the left with GOP size 1 and I bet it'll seek as smoothly as the video on the right.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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      (It will also be much larger, but still smaller than the video on the right since h.264 is still going to be a better codec even in intra only mode)

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    6. cancel/tumult‏ @tumult 10 Apr 2020
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      ffmpeg.exe -i welcome.mp4 -vcodec libx264 -g 1 welcome_gop1.mp4 it seeks fast now, but now it's twice the size of the original Sorenson video (which I deleted off of the host, so I just re-encoded the already re-encoded mp4, whatever)

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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      Change the CRF.

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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      Also re-encoding in intra only mode a video with interframe artifacts *is* going to increase the size for the same quality. No, not "whatever".

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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      If you had the original raw uncompressed video you could do a fair comparison, but now you're just stacking the cards against h.264 in multiple ways.

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      I'm not comparing h264's efficiency! I'm comparing the player software! The software on the left is defective! There are players that aren't F'd up!

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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      You're not comparing software efficiency unless you can get the player on the right to play the same h.264 video and do it smoothly.

      11:32 AM - 10 Apr 2020
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        2. cancel/tumult‏ @tumult 10 Apr 2020
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          the computer on the right is from 21 years ago

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        3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 10 Apr 2020
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          And 21 years ago codecs were simpler and software didn't have to do anything special to implement smooth scrubbing beyond implementing scrubbing at all.

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