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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. SwiftOnSecurity‏ @SwiftOnSecurity 19 Mar 2020
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      ELI5

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    2. Paul M Gerhardt‏Verified account @pmg 19 Mar 2020
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      A generation of electrical engineers (over 40 under 60) design everything using a microcontroller called a “PIC” (peripheral interface controller). They are *very* cheap. They perform no security validation.

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    3. Mx. Lottie (Charlotte)  💜 🦊‏ @Foxsan48 20 Mar 2020
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      heck... I'm 25 and I would have used a PIC[AXE] as we learned on those in school.

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    4. kuza‏ @kuzetsa 20 Mar 2020
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      yeah, my first experience with microcontrollers was PIC too. these days AVR is starting to become more popular, fortunately.

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Mar 2020
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      I learned microcontrollers with the venerable PIC16F84 and descendants, way before Arduino was a thing. It took me over 15 years years to finally jump ship to AVRs for random small projects. Please don't use PICs. For anything. There is literally no metric where they are ideal.

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    6. thinkcomputers.slc‏ @ThinkcomputersS 20 Mar 2020
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      Replying to @marcan42 @kuzetsa and

      I have a question based on a lack of experience. I started with PIC's & we found for low frequency audio, the PIC could generate a pretty decent waveform for what we needed (sorry forgot the hz) When we tried this with the arduino's, It didn't go so well. Has this changed?

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    7. thinkcomputers.slc‏ @ThinkcomputersS 20 Mar 2020
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      When I say it didn't go well, I mean it was a horrible approximation of a sine wave from the arduino, and the PIC did it fairly adequately.

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Mar 2020
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      Without more details about what exactly you were trying to do it's hard to say, but assuming you were using PWM, both micros have hardware PWM peripherals that should be more than adequate for this with a simple analog filter.

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    9. thinkcomputers.slc‏ @ThinkcomputersS 20 Mar 2020
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      You know, I just don't remember. Sorry for lack of details. We were trying to get it done without peripherals for fun using the D/A Analog out on the PIC and it worked ok. Boy now I need to go back and check my work. Its been a few years. To be fair, that was the only drawback

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    10. ᴊᴀʏ ᴄᴀʀʟsoɴ‏ @jaydcarlson 20 Mar 2020
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      Replying to @ThinkcomputersS @marcan42 and

      ATmega328p microcontrollers do not have a D/A converter (DAC). That may seem strange, given that the Arduino API has a function called analogWrite() that you can use on any pin with a sinewave squiggly mark by it, but in actuality, it's just a PWM output. What a stupid platform.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 20 Mar 2020
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      Replying to @jaydcarlson @ThinkcomputersS and

      Arduino != AVR. Yes, Arduino is, in a few ways, quite stupid. I always encourage people to quickly transition away from Arduino into programming microcontrollers bare metal. Just not with PICs.

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        2. Graham Sutherland (Polynomial^DSS)‏ @gsuberland 20 Mar 2020
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          Agreed. PIC is such a hateful ecosystem.

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        3. kuza‏ @kuzetsa 20 Mar 2020
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          I mean, there's a few greybeards and elitists, but mostly I feel like hackers who are familiar with it are doing what they know best because if it ain't broke, don't reinvent the wheel. I really just feel the AVR community has a beginner-friendly vibe (and educational resources).

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