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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Mar 2020
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      Seriously, how incompetent do you have to be to not only write code like this, but also *once the bug is found, completely fail at educating yourself as to what the correct, sane, safe way to fix it is*? I might excuse lack of knowledge, but not the utter inability to learn.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Mar 2020
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      Seriously, this incident raises *serious* questions about the quality of development at @yubico. It might be an isolated problem, but how did this mess slip through the cracks? Who reviewed this code? Does an entire team at Yubico think this is okay? Who hired them?

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Mar 2020
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      Do the same standards apply to every other team at @yubico? How do we know this isn't a pervasive problem? Are there any companywide standards on code quality? Is there even a security team dedicated to auditing stuff in general? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!?

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Mar 2020
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      Btw, someone joked about http://php.net  having this as the correct solution, and, well. But "knowing better than http://php.net " is definitely a prerequisite to be in the security business writing PHP. Or just don't write PHP.https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1089238169839489025 …

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      It's 2019 and PHP is *still* teaching people to concatenate SQL and vaguely-sanitized user input instead of using prepared statements. http://php.net/manual/en/mysqli.examples-basic.php … They got rid of the mysql module... only to teach people to use mysqli the same way. This is why SQLi isn't going away.
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    5. Anthony, of course‏ @ofcAnthony 12 Mar 2020
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      Not sure that it's PHP that's at fault. You could write this same problem in pretty much any language

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Mar 2020
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      But most other programming languages don't teach people to make this mistake in their *official documentation*.

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    7. Anthony, of course‏ @ofcAnthony 12 Mar 2020
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      Don't disagree. I was referring to your latter point of "don't write PHP"

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    8. Bojan Matic‏ @moljac024 12 Mar 2020
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      so continue to write in a language that is unsafe by default and the official docs don't help you either....why? do you also eat soup with a fork?

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    9. Anthony, of course‏ @ofcAnthony 12 Mar 2020
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      Show me a language that doesn't allow you to concatenate strings and use the result as a query. The docs are a problem, sure, but it's the developers and the education. It's not the language, and the language shaming was boring 10 years ago, it still is today

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Mar 2020
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      Culture matters. The problem is that a newbie trying to learn PHP and googling for answers is going to come across much lower quality code than a newbie learning something like Python. Even with the recent core PHP fixes, this is a problem the PHP community may never solve.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 12 Mar 2020
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      (And the docs are evidence of the problem being systemic and severe; if the docs are this bad, imagine how much worse all the random blogs are!)

      6:27 AM - 12 Mar 2020
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        2. Anthony, of course‏ @ofcAnthony 12 Mar 2020
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          You'll not get an argument from me here. I saw people writing tutorials that were susceptible to SQLi and using a deprecated interface literally days before said interface was removed when PHP 7 was released. I've seen too many of those blogs

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        3. Anthony, of course‏ @ofcAnthony 12 Mar 2020
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          PHP is often a victim of its own success. It flatters you. It's so easy that you make awful mistakes, not knowing what you were doing. I know; I did them. But I'd have been dangerous in any language, to be fair. I learned, and now I teach it

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