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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 25 Feb 2020
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      I'm pretty sure you can implement it in a firmware update for most devices. Whether manufacturers will bother with legacy devices is a bigger question. Nothing here needs new silicon.

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    3. Dr. 𝐋є𝓌Ɨş вคย𝐦𝓢╦Δ𝕣𝓴  🤖 🌮 👾‏ @lewisb42 25 Feb 2020
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      Odds my mid-90s synth gets updated: 0%

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    4. Sylvain Leroux / Yes, I Know IT !‏ @Yes_I_Know_IT 25 Feb 2020
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      We could reasonably bet, as long as manufacturers will still make the effort of installing DIN plugs into MIDI devices, legacy MIDI will continue to be supported. In the pro world I'm not too afraid for now. In the consumer/soho range of devices, that will be another story 🙄

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    5. Sylvain Leroux / Yes, I Know IT !‏ @Yes_I_Know_IT 25 Feb 2020
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      Hector mentionned a compatibility layer in this thread. So even if your device is using USB transport, there is still hope 😉

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 25 Feb 2020
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      I get the feeling DIN links are going away and being replaced by USB as the default standard.

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    7. Sylvain Leroux / Yes, I Know IT !‏ @Yes_I_Know_IT 25 Feb 2020
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      For devices designed to be connected to a computer, definitely. For studio gears that you may daisy chain, we still have DIN links. At least, this is what I see in the few studios around here. But I wouldn't claim this is representative of a trend, nor of the state of the art.

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    8. Sylvain Leroux / Yes, I Know IT !‏ @Yes_I_Know_IT 25 Feb 2020
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      For full disclosure, I'm not an audio engineer, even less a MIDI expert. I'm just an (enlightened?) enthusiast lucky enough to hanging around on pro studios once in a while. Take my comments with a (huge) grain of salt!

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 25 Feb 2020
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      The thing with DIN links is they have a serious bandwidth limitation and no error control. Just last weekend I saw a live rig with 3 daisy-chained aux keyboards hooked up to a MIDI mixer and to a main keyboard, all via USB, no computers involved. It seems it's becoming popular.

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    10. Sylvain Leroux / Yes, I Know IT !‏ @Yes_I_Know_IT 25 Feb 2020
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      Interesting! 🤔 I didn't know that setup. In that case, which device acts as the host? The mixer probably? Since USB 1.1 and 2 do not support daisy chain, the devices should embed a mini usb hub. Don't that add too much latency? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hub 

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 25 Feb 2020
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      USB hubs only add a few microseconds of latency, way less than USB MIDI itself has (at least 1ms or so). I believe the mixer was the host, yes.

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        1. Sylvain Leroux / Yes, I Know IT !‏ @Yes_I_Know_IT 26 Feb 2020
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          Thanks Hector for all these interesting pieces of information! 👍

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