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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      This whole situation is screwed up, especially since it's actively harming the environment in direct contravention of their stated values, and Sonos is the only manufacturer I know of that does it. Who the hell came up with this idea?

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    2. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      From what our eBay guy can tell, the bricking isn't even in hardware; you can't recover it if you're good with JTAG, because it's blacklisted as "recycled" on their servers. There's nothing stopping these things from working except Sonos says they can't.

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    3. Arlieth - 3s Framedata‏ @Arlieth 27 Dec 2019
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      Wait it's bricked from the SERVER side?

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    4. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      As far as we could tell, yeah.

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    5. Shiny Quagsire‏ @ShinyQuagsire 27 Dec 2019
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      So realistically, the only way to recover the devices is just a custom firmware and reimplementing their servers locally?

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    6. Marc “Constitutional Lawyer” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 27 Dec 2019
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      Which, I'm not speaking to the ethics of it here, I'm just saying, would almost certainly be a violation of the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA.

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Dec 2019
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      That's not how the DMCA works. If you're replacing Sonos firmware with your own the DMCA has nothing to say, because you aren't accessing any copyrighted content.

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    8. Marc “Constitutional Lawyer” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 27 Dec 2019
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      That depends on whether the firmware is allowing you to access copyrighted code on the device when you would otherwise not be able to do so. Since that includes the rest of the code in the firmware, unless you literally write a new firmware from scratch AND the device...

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    9. Marc “Constitutional Lawyer” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 27 Dec 2019
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      ... contains no other copyrighted code which you now have access to when you didn’t before, the question is not so simple as it might first appear.

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Dec 2019
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      If you replace the whole firmware, then there is no copyrighted code (other than the bootrom, but Sonos didn't write that) left. At most there may be crypto keys in the hardware used for streaming stuff, but you can ignore them.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Dec 2019
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      Just because something exists somewhere doesn't mean it's magically a DMCA violation to do something nearby. You have to actually bypass an effective technical protection measure that gives you access to copyrighted content.

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