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If it ain't broke, I'll fix it! I'm porting Linux to Apple Silicon Macs at @AsahiLinux. http://patreon.com/marcan  | http://github.com/sponsors/marcan 

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    1. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      Anyone even remotely familiar with recycling can tell you the mantra "reduce, reuse, recycle." Recycling takes energy and, while it saves materials, reuse is always better. Sonos is throwing any claimed environmental friendliness in the trash in order to sell more speakers.pic.twitter.com/4yL4XKZfvQ

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    2. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      This is the the most environmentally unfriendly abuse and waste of perfectly hardware I've seen in five years working at a recycler. We could have sold these, and ensured they were reused, as we do with all the working electronics we're able. Now we have to scrap them.

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    3. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      Apple has activation locks and Meraki has licensing requirements, one for anti-theft and the other to sell software. This is the only time I've seen a company explicitly brick its own hardware in the name of "sustainability" and "encouraging recycling."

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    4. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      To add insult to injury, there are complaints on Sonos' support forums from people who've managed to accidentally put their devices into recycling mode, and been told by Sonos support that there's no way to stop the countdown, forcing them to buy new devices after 21 days.

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    5. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      This whole situation is screwed up, especially since it's actively harming the environment in direct contravention of their stated values, and Sonos is the only manufacturer I know of that does it. Who the hell came up with this idea?

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    6. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      From what our eBay guy can tell, the bricking isn't even in hardware; you can't recover it if you're good with JTAG, because it's blacklisted as "recycled" on their servers. There's nothing stopping these things from working except Sonos says they can't.

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    7. Arlieth - 3s Framedata‏ @Arlieth 27 Dec 2019
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      Wait it's bricked from the SERVER side?

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    8. site specific carnivorous occurrence‏ @atomicthumbs 27 Dec 2019
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      As far as we could tell, yeah.

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    9. Shiny Quagsire‏ @ShinyQuagsire 27 Dec 2019
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      So realistically, the only way to recover the devices is just a custom firmware and reimplementing their servers locally?

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    10. Marc “Constitutional Lawyer” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 27 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @ShinyQuagsire @atomicthumbs @Arlieth

      Which, I'm not speaking to the ethics of it here, I'm just saying, would almost certainly be a violation of the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA.

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      Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 27 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @WhippleMarc @ShinyQuagsire and

      That's not how the DMCA works. If you're replacing Sonos firmware with your own the DMCA has nothing to say, because you aren't accessing any copyrighted content.

      6:51 PM - 27 Dec 2019
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        2. Marc “Constitutional Lawyer” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 27 Dec 2019
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          That depends on whether the firmware is allowing you to access copyrighted code on the device when you would otherwise not be able to do so. Since that includes the rest of the code in the firmware, unless you literally write a new firmware from scratch AND the device...

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        3. Marc “Constitutional Lawyer” Whipple‏ @WhippleMarc 27 Dec 2019
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          ... contains no other copyrighted code which you now have access to when you didn’t before, the question is not so simple as it might first appear.

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